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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There's more to it than that. CPR certifications only last two years (at least in the US) and there's also the liability included with performing CPR that they cover in the class. If you perform CPR but are found to not have a current certification then you can get in a heap of financial debt as your not truly covered by the protections the certification can provide you, mainly around the "permission" to perform the act. Ribs can be broken and lungs can be punctured simply by performing CPR normally with the required amount of pressure needed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Call 911 and then follow the instructions of the operator who is trained in teaching CPR over the phone in these situations, and knows the latest. That you had training means you are more likely to understand instructions given ,and if not you were following directions of someone else.

You need to call 911 anyway. CPR is only performed on dead people, you need an AED (or similar tools in an ambulance) to bring someone back to life.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling 911 is the right way to go. Activating emergency response system. And if you don’t make sure someone else does and tells you they have. So many times people assume someone else called and no one has.

There was a push at one point in time to teach bystander CPR, which focuses on compressions at a rate of 100-120 a minute with a little less focus on landmarks and more “middle of the chest and go”. It also taught that people typically have about 20 minutes of reserve oxygen in their venous system and that compressions continuously increased survivability by keeping the circulation going through compressions. Considering average ems response time in the US, it seemed to reduce confusion and encouraged more community response (not wanting to do mouth to mouth is a fear people have). Not sure if it’s still being taught, but it was fairly well received at the time.

[–] PickTheStick 2 points 1 year ago

The 'single rescuer' CPR is still taught, and (one) standard says that if the rescuer doesn't want to give breaths by mouth, compressions alone are better than nothing. Giving breaths is still better. Once you have two rescuers, one better be giving breaths. I wish more places had the mouth masks placed with their AEDs. I carry mine around with me, but who the hell actually does that?

[–] XbSuper 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Call 911 yes, but if you have training, tell them to stfu and let you do it. They try to have you count out loud with them, but the delay over the phone makes you go off rhythm constantly. I threw the phone across the room when I was giving CPR to my dad. He didn't make it, and I often wonder if it was because of the shitty beginning of the CPR regimen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That sounds traumatic. Hope you're getting through it (sorry for your loss)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

In most cases good Samaritan laws protect people performing CPR regardless of certification.

Though yes, in my ideal world everyone would have up-to-date training paid for by the State.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good Samaritan laws would protect you from that, no?