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They're still scumbags though

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

George W. Bush is still the torture president, the surveillance state president, the police state president, the war on terror president and the war profiteering president.

Oh and the signing statements president.

Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize in his first year just for the act of Not Being Bush.

[–] randon31415 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to bash Obama, but how many of those things did Obama stop doing? GIMO is still open, five eyes was started under him, and Biden was the one that pulled troops from Afghanistan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Bash away. Obama promised us hope and change and upheld most of George W. Bush's policies, even adding village-burning drone-strikes to the war on terror and disposition matrix. After Bush we believed for a moment that maybe Obama might turn around the ultra-conservative nightmare we'd been watching unfold. Not at all. We learned about NSA's PRISM and XKeyscore programs, Obama the president debated with Obama the candidate on television

And we had to face that the Democratic party isn't going to save the United States, not from the transnational white power movement, or Christian nationalism, not from the climate crisis. Not from runaway unregulated capitalism.

I still vote Democrat, but that's to vote against the Republican takeover, since they're not even pretending about going full-on authoritarian dictatorship. It's all a mess, and I don't know if there is a good ending to this adventure.