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Selling railway infrastructure to car manufacturers is generally a bad idea. That's how the car industry contributed to killing public transportation in the US.
Public transport is their competition. Killing it brings profit. Very simple logic.
In this case, itβs only going to be used by employees of that company due to the stations on that track, so I donβt see a problem.
I personally do see a problem with companies building their facilities in the middle of nowhere and then expecting the public transport network to figure it out.
Germany is not the US. They surely agreed to a lengthy list of things they can and cannot do. I for once think this is a good thing (I live in Germany)
Which Elon Musk will promptly shit all over the moment it's inconvenient for him.
I feel like public transports are never good in the hands of private companies anyway. It always needs to be heavily subsidised, and it's never better than publicly managed. And competition makes things even worse.
The subways in NYC did just fine until the 1920s.when the government started making things hard.
I don't know about NYC but chicago all the lines were owned by different folk and jumping from one to the other had cost. One of the things I like about our system (especially having experienced DC's metro) is that moving between train lines and bus routes is all free once you paid the base fare. Recently they are getting the metra rail and cta/pace more integrated to which is great and I hope that trend continues. Actually the bike rental became sorta bs and I wish it had been integrated into the cta.
There are up and downsides to a private market, and switching trains was one of the downsides. NYC also runs a lot of lines today that don't make sense until you realize it was done in 1910 to compete with some other company. There are pros and cons of both private and government run transit is all I can say confidently.
Yeah I guess it does depend on the individual. All I can say is the switching trains downside basically makes public transit a non starter for me. Where I live the appeal is I can get absolutely anywhere in the city and a fair amount of the suburbs and then further out you become a bit more limited as you get away from the grid structure and the plethera of train lines and busses. Certainly within the city there is nothing you can't go to in the generic sense (id you can go to many sea food restaurants but not bob chins necessarily [holy crap but while I right this it is possible to go by bus but it would take like an hour and a half and that assumes you get to the buses on time since the last leg as unoften as hourly at times])