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Unpaywalled Version: https://archive.ph/n9NWZ

With increasing dogmatism on the far right, ideology that should have become extinct rears its ugly head. If we don't stop this, a lot of innocent people will get hurt in the end.

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[–] PizzaMan 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Your George Washington straw man misses the mark, he didn’t fight for slaves.

That's not the basis for my comparison, and therefore not relevant. The basis for comparison was that he, just like Sanger, is a historical figure that did a lot of good, while also doing a lot of bad.

"I don’t have to prove republicans publicly approved of Washington's slavery and slaughter of the natives. They know about his past, celebrate him, and continue to this day to try to down play his racist actions."

Do you still not see the problem here?

Would you consider organizations that honor George Washington to be racist?

[–] jimbolauski 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Washington did not fight for slavery, did not advicate for it, and infact freed all the slaves he owned. He was not a champion of slavery. Sanger viewed abortion and birth control as a means to stop the undesirables from reproducing. She championed eugenics, PP was just a side effect of her goals.

[–] PizzaMan 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You still haven't answered my question.

Would you consider organizations that honor George Washington to be racist?

[–] jimbolauski 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No because Washington didn't use the revolutionary war to enact slavery.

[–] PizzaMan 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He had slaves. And that was racist regardless of his opinion on the matter. He explicitly called for the genocide of natives.

[–] jimbolauski 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are definitely going to need a source for that claim.

[–] PizzaMan 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] jimbolauski 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I must have missed where in all those sources Washington "explicitly called for the genocide of natives."

[–] PizzaMan 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try reading some of these things then.

[–] jimbolauski 1 points 1 year ago

What things? None of your references have Washington explicitly calling for genocide. The only ones that do mention the word genocide are opinion pieces and don't have any references of Washington calling for genocide.

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