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A few years ago we were able to upgrade everything (OS and Apps) using a single command. I remember this was something we boasted about when talking to Windows and Mac fans. It was such an amazing feature. Something that users of proprietary systems hadn't even heard about. We had this on desktops before things like Apple's App Store and Play Store were a thing.

We can no longer do that thanks to Flatpaks and Snaps as well as AppImages.

Recently i upgraded my Fedora system. I few days later i found out i was runnig some older apps since they were Flatpaks (i had completely forgotten how I installed bitwarden for instance.)

Do you miss the old system too?

Is it possible to bring back that experience? A unified, reliable CLI solution to make sure EVERYTHING is up to date?

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[–] Offlein 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What?! No! How could this have been Linux's "killer feature"?

Am I taking crazy pills? It really matters to you that you can use a single command to upgrade your system?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

To me the Linux killer feature is getting to be the true owner of the hardware. Any command you run can succeed if you know how to write it

[–] linearchaos 1 points 1 year ago

Killer feature, no.

It does kinda suck for install and update to head toward more fracturing.

Install obs, oof the plugin I want is flatpack only, go to install flat pack version, yeah it's folder is buried. Go wedge the plugin out of it's folder to put it on my apt location, doesn't work. Screw with it for 15 minutes. No good. Ok uninstall apt version, install flatpack version. Now my 4fl won't trigger virtual cam. An about later I cobble it back together.

At least with source you place the binary. If you dpkg, it plays nice with apt with a fix broken install.

Shit used to be designed to play ni e together. Flatpack and appimage are like screw you, it's easier to develop/deliver.