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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair most won’t, but they definitely can and do.

Especially when they are jaws on legs that are more inclined compared to other dogs.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Yup. I've crunched the numbers before, and it's something like 1 in 10,000 pit bulls will attack a human or other companion animal every year. It's not likely for any given pit to attack a person (which I can anecdotally support–they're obnoxiously friendly and loving in my experience), but it's also like 10 times more than the next most vicious breed. In my opinion, it's not worth euthanizing every member of the breed, but it is worth neutering every one. We don't need dog breeds, especially ones responsible for over half of the violent attacks on people and other animals.

Of course, I'm in support of neutering all companion animals to reduce the stray population and ease the strain on shelters, regardless of breed or species. Breed specific laws are only one step towards fixing the larger problem.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Of course, I’m in support of neutering all companion animals to ease the stray population and the strain on shelters, regardless of breed or species. Breed specific laws are only one step towards fixing the larger problem.

Bob Barker is smiling down on you from heaven for this

[–] workerONE 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't you think that pit bull attacks are dangerous and cause medical trauma which leads to reporting of the attack? I think it's likely that they don't attack people more than any other dog breed. I was bit by a black lab mix. I didn't report it to anyone. If it had been a pit bull I probably would have needed medical attention.

[–] Maggoty -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's actually not the strongest bite. And not the only breed with a locking jaw. It is the breed with a reputation though...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. Built by shitty people doing shitty things to these dogs because they like that fact about them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I must be unlucky because I have yet not run into one that didn't try to kill me if not for the muzzle or them being a puppy or a fence.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The actual issue is that's it's a degenerative disease in dogs of similar breeds. At some point they get old and less able to recognize friend from foe. That might be ok if it weren't for the jaws you mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly.

I'd go one step farther and even say if they even had the same amount of attacks as other dogs, had no possible mental diseases, and all want to caring homes I would still put restrictions/ban on them.

They are just too large to handle, too big of a bite to brush off, and end up in dog attacks a lot. That's enough for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm gonna need a source on that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cerebellar Cortical Disintegration or Degenerative Myelopathy could exacerbate a situation.

I unexpectedly found this on the genetic mapping of aggression which seemed interesting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4977763/

[–] givesomefucks 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4977763/

That's a great article...

However the only examples of aggression being related to breed is with Daschands and Yorkies, although the study says that's likely just to that specific gene also making legs shorter.

While there is a genetic component to aggression, it's variation is pretty standard amongst all dogs, except the tiny ones who may have accidentally been selected for it.

But someone asked you for a source for a cognitive thing and you just randomly linked an article about how breed doesn't determine behavior?

Did you know what that article was about before you linked it?___

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However, it is also notable that a subset of large breeds carries the chrX reduced-fear/aggression and increased-size variants in perfect LD.

I know reading is hard, friend! I linked that as it was the most interesting thing I found while looking off there were other degenerative diseases common in pitbulls, while not being pitbull specific. Did you think me finding evidence contrary to my beliefs would result in me hiding it?

I'd give you snarky "let me Google that for you" on the degenerative diseases as they're genuinely interesting, but I guess you'll never know what they're about since you can type a comment but not use a search engine.

[–] givesomefucks 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People were talking about pitbulls, they average 60lbs, they're not a "subset of large breeds" like Rottweilers who average 120lbs...

You're not being coherent, just trying to jump between "gotchas".

Just randomly jumping all over

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right, pitbulls are medium not large, sorry. Nevertheless the study was interesting. Again, wasn't trying to make a point with it, it was the most genuinely interesting thing I found in my short search about the subject of aggression in dogs. Sorry you don't agree.

But since you're having so much fun chatting with me:
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Cerebellar+Cortical+Disintegration
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Degenerative+Myelopathy

[–] givesomefucks 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you still couldn't find anything that agrees with you?

Sorry, not taking the time to help you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did and put those in the original comment you are being replying to. You just refused to look up anything about them. I have no desire to do your research either, ignorance suits you.

[–] givesomefucks -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did and put those in the original comment you are being replying to.

You didn't tho, you have that random article you didn't read...

Although I don't know why I'd be surprised you're just making shit up now, that's all you've done so far. I have no doubt you somehow think you're "winning" whatever is you're trying to do here either.

Have fun with whatever that is I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No one is "winning". When you wrestle with a pig you both get covered in shit, but the pig likes it.

Guess we'll both have our own perspective on that old saying.