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A Russian pilot tried to shoot down an RAF surveillance plane after believing he had permission to fire, the BBC has learned.

The pilot fired two missiles, the first of which missed rather than malfunctioned as claimed at the time.

Russia had claimed the incident last September was caused by a "technical malfunction". The UK's Ministry of Defence (MoD) publicly accepted the Russian explanation.

But now three senior Western defence sources with knowledge of the incident have told the BBC that Russian communications intercepted by the RAF RC-135 Rivet Joint aircraft give a very different account from the official version.

The RAF plane - with a crew of up to 30 - was flying a surveillance mission over the Black Sea in international airspace on 29 September last year when it encountered two Russian SU-27 fighter jets.

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[–] dublet 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are we sure they actually have nuclear weapons to the level they claim? Given the level of corruption displayed elsewhere in their military and the sheer funds relatively allocated to their nuclear programme, it would not surprise me if their nuclear weapons were just stones with glow in the dark paint on it while the actual money was spent on some oligarch's house in central London.

I would of course prefer not to find out by having an ICBM coming my way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Probably not to the level they claim but they claim to have so many that that doesn't mean much.

[–] Aux 4 points 1 year ago

Even if they launch unarmed ICBMs no one will risk it and nuclear apocalypse will commence without a delay.

[–] jarfil 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some nuclear warheads have a "best by" date, and need to be recycled. ICBMs also have a "best by" date on fuel, and both the missiles and launch installations need to be regularly maintained (at least with some WD-40, or whatever Russian equivalent).

If Russia launched a full scale attack right now, you'd likely see some of the launch sites explode, a bunch of duds, another bunch of them getting intercepted, and a few hundred million people dead from the ones that worked as intended... possibly including that London oligarch and his home. Followed by major Russian cities, military, and industrial complexes getting destroyed in retaliation.

Overall: not good.