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Well, EU is not very successful with their own electric cars
Are you kidding? VW sells at least as good as Tesla in the EU, when not sightly better.
https://www.electromaps.com/en/blog/europes-best-selling-electric-cars-q1-2023
Not quite. All the European brands together still isn't enough to take the top spot from tesla, and tesla has both #1 and #2.
You are looking at specific models though, and not whole manufacturer’s market share. It does seems that Testa took a leap in the last couple of quarters though.
While this extract is for the whole 2022, it puts VW at the top. Let’s wait for 2023 to close up.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1405996/bev-leading-manufacturers-europe/
In any way, EU made EVs are very competitive. Saying that the “EU is not successful with their own EVs” is the real bullshit.
Agreed.
And let's see what 2023 brings. Would be good to see some European cars come out on top.
are you serious? as much as i hate the ceo, but tesla has, unfortunately, better mpkwh than any european car manufacturer. the software is also way ahead. and then there is, at least in germany, the problem with the reliabilty of the charging network. only enbw comes close to tesla superchargers, but they are not part of any car manufacturer.
Which has nothing to do with raw sell numbers.
Teslas aren’t built to last, there is extensive documentation about parts falling after a few years.
Also the range that they display has been proven to be bullshit until you are low on battery.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/south-korea-fines-tesla-22-mln-exaggerating-driving-range-evs-2023-01-03/
Hmm. I wonder how hard it would be to improve thermal insulation on the cabin on cars. I mean, double-paned glass and so forth. Thermal insulation in the walls and floors and ceiling. Maybe aerogel or something if one really wants to save on weight.
Insulation means weight. More weight is bad, reduces fuel efficiency, but with EVs, you also get regenerative braking, which avoids some of the cost of weight.
With internal combustion vehicles, you have a bunch of waste heat that you get for free, so at least for heating -- maybe not air conditioning -- there's not much point in worrying too much about thermal efficiency. You have more heat than you know what to do with.
So given the combination of weight being more-expensive on ICE vehicles and heat being just about free, you wouldn't have had a lot of incentive to optimize for that set of tradeoffs; I'd assume under-spending on R&D.
And maybe run the car's ventilation through a counter-flow heat exchanger to recover heat before venting it to the outside.
In many countries (incl. Finland where I live), third party charging stations are much more common than Superchargers. For example most large shopping malls have a bunch of charging stations, often above 100kW.