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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like this idea. Is it canonical?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not entirely. Sam was tempted, and if he possessed the ring long enough he would have been overcome like any other, but his Hobbit-sense saved him in that one small moment:

""As he stood there, even though the Ring was not on him but hanging by its chain about his neck, he felt himself enlarged, as if he were robed in a huge distorted shadow of himself, and vast and ominous threat halted upon the walls of Mordor..."

"Wild fantasies arose in his mind; and he saw Samwise the Strong, Hero of the Age, striding with a flaming sword across the darkened land, and armies flocking to his call as he marched to the overthrow of Barad-dur... He had only to put on the Ring and claim it for his own, and all this could be. "

"In that hour of trial it was the love of his master that helped most to hold him firm; but also deep down in him lived still unconquered his plain hobbit-sense: he knew in the core of his heart that he was not large enough to bear such a burden, even if such visions were not a mere cheat to betray him. The one small garden of a free gardener was all his need and due, not a garden swollen to a realm; his own hands to use, not the hands of others to command. "

[–] pennomi 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The One Ring fucked up. It needed to tempt him with a mountain of PO-TA-TOES.

[–] NOPper 3 points 1 year ago

Such is hobbit life.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Thank you very much for the disclaimer and the quotes, they explain a lot. Are there any clues in the text that gandalf knew exactly what he was doing when he chose Sam to accompany frodo. With respect to this honest sense, Sam has?

[–] Sylver 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In the book, when he was carrying it temporarily for Frodo, the Ring did tempt him. He saw himself at the head of a vast garden, a garden rivaling nations, one that would be free of society and allowed to grow endlessly. The feelings of conquest were justified immediately by the retaking of nature.

Not too bad of a temptation, I dare say.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Geez, there's so much I either missed or conflated with the movies since reading the series. Someone else included the quote where he just wants to be a small gardener with his own garden, but I don't remember the garden to rival nations although it rings a bell.

Oh, found it, "and then all the clouds rolled away, and the white sun shone, and at his command the vale of Gorgoroth became a garden of flowers and trees and brought forth fruit. He had only to put on the Ring and claim it for his own"

That's great, thanks.

[–] samus12345 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's actually pretty funny to imagine the Ring searching his mind for ways to tempt him and being like, "This guy just wants a fucking GARDEN? What am I supposed to do with that?? Uhh, hey, Sam, you can have a garden that covers all of Middle Earth! (That's so stupid, I hope he falls for it)"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

True. But also, I believe he was pretty hungry by this point in the journey too, so being able to just grow thousands of fruit trees instantly might have been pretty tempting at the time

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Hahaha, yea that's hilarious

[–] Sylver 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah maybe I was inflating it just a tad, it seems he had the realization that he could have such a large garden, but conceded in only wanting a nice singular garden.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No, that's great, I totally forgot about that point in his temptation, It's great that his most fervent desire that the ring can discern is for a...just a giant garden.

Haha

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Ring tried to tempt him like you pointed out, but because he only wanted to tend to a small garden, he never attempted to steal The Ring from Frodo unlike Boromir.