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Transporters work by de-assembling something (e.g. you) and re-assembling it somewhere else. What if, when you're dis-assembled, you die, and the re-assembled version of you is essentially a copy? Then every time someone steps onto a transporter, their final thought before death is that they'll end up beamed somewhere else. And the re-assembled version (copy) just thinks that everything went fine and continues on like nothing bad happened.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've often wondered though - say you do die, and get cloned at the other end... there hasn't been a 'gap' in your consciousness as such. So were you ever truly dead? Even if you're not technically the same person, as long as a version of you lives on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This was always my take on the matter, too.

I am my memories, my experiences, and the continuity of my consciousness, not the meat prison my mind is forced to reside in. If my consciousness continues, I am alive. Whether that's this bag of meat, that bag of meat, or the Transmetropolitan-inspired nanite-cloud I wish I could live on as, I'm still me either way. There might be a difference, but from my perspective it doesn't make a difference.

[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you die, you're dead. The clone that appears on the other end, while being identical in every way, wouldn't be the same you that you are and wouldn't possess the same consciousness, an identical consciousness yes, but not the same one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But how is a clone with an identical consciousness not 'you'?

[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is still you, just not the same you that you were before being killed and cloned. Look at it this way, if the technology existed for me to make a perfect clone copy of you with all your abilities, memories, and flaws exactly as they are, but in order to do so I would need to remove and liquefy your brain but otherwise leaving your body intact, then the you that you currently are would cease to exist. To the outside world and everyone in it, the clone of you would still be considered you as it would be indistinguishable from the original, but the you that was you before the cloning process is now a brainless corpse back in my lab.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original version of me ceases to exist, but for all intents and purposes there has no been no break in existence for [OmegaMouse]. You could say that those are two separate people, but what if the same happens every time we go to sleep, and we're none the wiser? As long as someone identical comes out on the other end, what difference does it make?

[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer 2 points 1 year ago

It makes no difference in the sense that a version of you would still exist, but for the version of you that ceases to exist, I'd think it would matter to them. The movie The Prestige from 2006 somewhat illustrates my point on this.