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Oxford study proves heat pumps triumph over fossil fuels in the cold::Published Monday in the scientific journal Joule, the research found that heat pumps are two to three times more efficient than their oil and gas counterparts, specifically in temperatures ranging from 10 C to -20 C.

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[–] alvvayson 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Geothermal has advantages, but air source is getting so good that it's really becoming a niche.

Spending $5K on insulation or heat recovery ventilation will be more effective than spending it on a hole.

I saw an awesome home refurbishment in Montreal, they just went all-in on insulation. The heating was just done with a 500W resistive heating coil, just for the coldest days. They didn't even have a heat pump, except for the heat pump boiler. The heat recovery ventilation did the rest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if you already have good insulation? It's already well-known that old houses have shit insulation, so of course it's worth investing money into that if you already need it. But, even heating a new house can be expensive.

[–] alvvayson 2 points 1 year ago

If you have good insulation then the weakest link is usually heat lost through ventilation, or an inefficient heating system.

Ground source heat pumps have their place, but it's really a niche. It is possible to cheaply heat a home without them.

[–] DarthBueller 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is HRV? I thought it meant a ground loop heat exchanger. I’ve heard about it in the passivhaus model but don’t understand it.

[–] alvvayson 5 points 1 year ago

Houses need fresh air and need to expel dirty air.

The dirty air is warm, while the outside fresh air is cold. With heat recovery ventilation, the heat is transferred into the incoming air and the exhaust air becomes cold. This warms up the air in a very efficient manner.

It can also be combined with a heat pump to extract even more heat out of the exhaust.