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A Swiss International Air Lines plane arrived at its destination without a single checked bag onboard.

The plane arrived in Bilbao, Spain, on Saturday without any of the passengers' checked bags. The bags were left behind in Zurich, Switzerland, Kavin Ampalam, a spokesperson for Swiss, told the news agency AFP.

Passengers waited in vain for more than two hours at a conveyor belt for their suitcases, according to the Swiss-German newspaper The Blick.

"There was a shortage of ground staff," Ampalam told AFP. Ampalam said the flight departed without its 111 passengers' suitcases "for operational reasons," as the plane had to fly another set of passengers from Bilbao to Zurich Airport before it closed. Swiss was operating the flight on behalf of Edelweiss Air, Ampalam said.

Ampalam said the flight crew waited for "one hour and 16 minutes" for the ground staff to load the bags onto the plane before deciding to fly to Bilbao without them.

"We understand the situation is not favourable for the people involved, and of course we regret the inconvenience," Ampalam told AFP.

Several passengers said the pilot in charge of the flight was apologetic over the delayed departure, but never mentioned leaving their bags in Zurich, according to Blick's report.

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[–] espentan 79 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can't recall the last time I traveled with checked luggage. It has its disadvantages, for sure, but flying is a terrible enough experience without having to stand in line waiting to check luggage, and then standing around waiting for it to (maybe) appear on a conveyor belt.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] NightAuthor 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I usually get my kids their own tickets to sit with me.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why bother? You can just rent them at arrivals

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

They have those little kiosks now don't they? Headphones, movies, gaming system, kids...

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Ah the good ol Lemmy switcheroo!

[–] ProvableGecko 17 points 1 year ago

AFIK they don't let you check them in, for obvious reasons

[–] espentan 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He, I suppose that's obvious :)

[–] stealthnerd 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I almost never checked bags prior to having a child but there's been plenty of times where the airline checked my bags at the gate because the overheads were full so I quickly learned it's something you can't count on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately that's gotten me to pay for priority boarding group now

[–] Ghoti_ 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I went to Disney for a week with my 1 year old and wife. We used 2 carry one and a personal bag.

I refuse to take checked bags because I travel off and on for work and I’ve been burned too many times with checked bags.

It’s pretty easy to pull off if you just do things like sleep in the clothes you plan on wearing the next day or only bringing enough diapers and wipes for the plane and buying a weeks supply at your destination.

[–] stealthnerd 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Your didn't have a car seat with you? I can see getting away without a stroller if you use a carrier but no car seat isn't an option.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't you rent those along with the car?

[–] stealthnerd 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know, I've never looked into it. Unless you can rent them at the airport though I don't see it being helpful.

Sometimes you can book a car service in advance that will provide one.

Regardless it's going to be extra cost and something extra to worry about when you arrive which isn't worth it to me personally.

[–] Ghoti_ 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Car seats and strollers are gate checked (different imo) at most airlines

The chance of a gate checked item getting lost or forgotten is near zero in my experience

[–] stealthnerd 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Car seats are not gate checked. Strollers can be since parents use them up until boarding but car seats are checked with the rest of your luggage.

Edit: I forgot to account for car seats that are part of a stroller... I imagine those would have to be gate checked as well. That's a special case though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those get checked at the gate as you board the plane and are the first thing off the plane and waiting for you in the tunnel as you deboard.

[–] stealthnerd 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You retrieve them from baggage claim just like everyone else, at least that's been my experience across multiple airlines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Interesting, because that has not been my experience with multiple airlines. I have always checked it at the gate, and dropped it off at the end of the tunnel just before boarding the plane. Then, during deboard, it’s waiting for me at the same spot, in the tunnel just outside of the plane. This has been the case with Southwest, Hawaiian, Alaskan, and Delta (I think? That flight was 5 years ago so I might be wrong on the airliner, I forget).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too risky depending on your destination. What if there is a plane delay, what if there is no food for your baby, what if they don’t sell the food your baby is used to etc etc. usually just the baby stuff takes a while checkin luggage, not to mention the stroller.

[–] Ghoti_ 5 points 1 year ago

1 year olds can eat a very wide range of foods as long as they’re served right so it wasn’t an issue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My wife and I just flew with 2 kids and no checked bags. Yes, it was a pain to manage 4 carry-ons and 4 personal bags, but it was manageable, and it beat the hell out of paying another $200 to have those 4 bags checked.

Edit: They're 6 and 8 years old. It's impossible for me to say whether it would have been possible when they were younger, as my 8-year-old is only recently past her medical issues that necessitated considerable additional luggage -- so we just didn't fly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My wife and I have done several trips with our two kids (born 2018 and 2020) and have never checked in anything. It's absolutely doable if you pack wisely.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great when you can manage it, they often take my carry on luggage from me and insist on checking it. Had musical instruments forcibly checked like that against written policy and paid-for permissions several times now.

Also, some people like owning scissors. Or just have kids and need the extra luggage space.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Don't forget wheelchairs.
You are forced to check what is essentially your legs that in almost all cases is personalised for your specific needs (so you can't just sub in a generic chair) and often costs thousands if not tens of thousands, yet airlines lose or damage hundreds of wheelchairs and scooters every month in the US alone.

[–] Carighan 12 points 1 year ago

Or just have kids and need the extra luggage space.

I wouldn't check my kids tbh. They're just going to cause a mess during loading.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I only check bags, for the exact same reason. I realized that some of my biggest stressors in traveling were getting everything to fit on a carryon-plus-backpack, and worrying about getting room in the overhead compartment. I’d rather stand around a carousel for fifteen minutes before walking to grab an uber than have to deal with that. I did the opposite for many years while business traveling on multiple flights weekly, and I just got tired of it. Different people have different tolerances for different things.

I do have to say that, after hundreds of flights, I had my bags lost exactly once. Fortunately it was on a flight home, so other than having to wait at the airport until midnight when they finally acknowledged they lost my suitcase, and having to receive my suitcase two days later at 10 pm from a sketchy guy in an unmarked white van that the airline sent out, it was okay. In that time, I’ve had two or three colleagues have their bags go missing on the way to a meeting /conference, and that’s with the combinatorial aspect to the problem. It’s a pain, but you wind up with a story and a new outfit, and most people you’re meeting with will understand the issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I can't carry my bicycle on

[–] espentan 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually have a bike they can fit, but its a crapshoot going through security.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, I have instruments they can fit, they confirm they can fit, then nick them from me and insist on checking them anyway after I organised to carry on.