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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has to be a lie. I've never seen a single kid educated enough to even know what anarchy is. But they're definitely dumb enough to parrot their parents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've never seen a group of adolescents punks? Have ever been outside?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Adolescent punks have zero idea what anarchy is. They just hate their dads

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody has any idea what anarchy is. The one tenet of the philosophy is that any time someone tries to define it in any concrete way so that it can be discussed and criticized the anarchists all come out of the woodwork to say "no, that's not it." They never say what it is, though, because it isn't anything.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't imagine the depths of arrogance and ignorance it requires to say that a political theory centuries in the making, with countless theorists writing lengthy tomes on the subject, has nothing to it.

I can quite easily summarise what it is, though. People self organising with no hierarchy. If you want it even simpler, anarchy is not having a ruler or leader; you can glean that just from the construction of the word, "an" (without) ,"archy" (rule), literally, "without a ruler". There you go! I very much doubt you've talked to any anarchists, if you've never heard any say that. If you have, you certainly didn't listen.

Mikhail Bakunin

Noam Chomsky

Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

Emma Goldman

Peter Kropotkin

Just a few names for you to look into, in the field that has no consistent theory, because no one knows what it is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Actually, they have a pretty good idea of the core principle of "rejecting authority". That's the natural state of the adolescent already.

How you would get an adolescent to naturally align with capitalism though, is a mystery for me. Seems like shit lemmygrad would make up.

[–] SCB -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My rejection of authority is why I'm a liberal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it makes total sense. What are you missing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Liberalism is the dominant ideology enforced by states of the world. It is the establishment, the status quo. Agreeing with it is agreeing with authority. More than that, though, liberalism requires authority to function. So to say you reject authority, yet are a liberal, makes no sense.

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bring "anti-authority" doesn't mean "disliking ideas because they're popular." That's a middle-school-ass take.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, which is why that isn't what I said. :)

[–] SCB 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Liberalism is the dominant ideology of the world. It is the establishment, the status quo. Agreeing with it is agreeing with authority.

This is middle school shit

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Explain how. And while you're at it, how you get from that to "being against authority is rejecting what is popular".

[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You claimed it is the status quo. I didn't bring up how popular liberalism is. It's popular because it's correct.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is the status quo, enforced by the state. Here you are bringing up its popularity:

Bring "anti-authority" doesn't mean "disliking ideas because they're popular."

How exactly is the status quo of capitalism, hierarchy, state and exploitation "correct"?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because we're indoctrinated into it from birth. You have to put up active efforts to ignore or critically examine it, in order to believe differently.

Also, hating your dad isn't rejecting authority, and rejecting authority isn't anarchism. It's pretty close, though.