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OpenAI confirms that AI writing detectors don’t work (arstechnica.com)
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[–] dyc3 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chatgpt 3.5 is free. Can't get more student priced than that.

Regarding the second part about outputs: that's not practical. Suppose you ignore students running their own LLMs offline on their gaming gpus, where these corps wouldn't have access to the info. It's still wildly impractical because students can paraphrase LLM output into something that doesn't look like the original output.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chatgpt 3.5 is free. Can't get more student priced than that.

Yeah, my point was I don't think there are many offering the service for free. And they are probably looking for revenue streams.

Suppose you ignore students running their own LLMs offline on their gaming gpus

I actually feel like this is the one that shouldn't be ignored. But I don't have a good sense of the computational power vs quality output.

It's still wildly impractical because students can paraphrase LLM output into something that doesn't look like the original output.

At least doing that is likely to result in the student internalizing the information to some degree. It's also not so different (not at all different?) from the most benign academic dishonesty that existed when I was a student.

One issue with the approach I suggested is the copyright issue of profs submitting students' original work for AI processing without understanding/caring about copyright implications.

[–] dyc3 1 points 1 year ago

And they are probably looking for revenue streams.

Yeah of course. As it stands right now gpt 3.5 is free, but gpt 4.0, which has been demonstrated to produce better output and get do more, costs a monthly subscription.

At least doing that is likely to result in the student internalizing the information to some degree.

This is a good point, and I agree.