THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
① Real-life decorum is expected. Please don't say things only a child or a jackass would say in person.
② If you're here to support the police, you're trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.
③ Saying ~~cops~~ ANYONE should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They're about killing people; we're not.
④ Please don't dox or post calls for harassment, vigilantism, tar & feather attacks, etc.
Please also abide by the instance rules.
It you've been banned but don't know why, check the moderator's log. If you feel you didn't deserve it, hey, I'm new at this and maybe you're right. Send a cordial PM, for a second chance.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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Show me an example of a black family suffering abuse from Black Lives Matter you troll.
I think you missed the point. As for the ad hominem well, it says more about you.
The point is not in the story itself, but in the way the article was written:
Person suffers at hands of people they support - queue schadenfreude mirth from opponents. Laugh at their pain, for it is funny.
You wanted an example of the opposite you said?
Here you go: “A protester shot my sister! A protester!” she said. “You are so mad at the police that you are hurting everyone else.”, Associated Press link
Do you not think this was presented the exact same way in right wing forums as the original story was presented in boingboing?
Would it change your mind? Would you reconsider?
Would society come closer to healing if the media were overrun with these outrage click-bait stories?
Society has fallen for Russian active measures, tearing itself apart.
We need a healing strategy and this is not it.
That wasn't an ad hominem, that was just a straight insult you dolt.
Oh goody, answering the substance.
You're critiquing the journalism? Both BoingBoing and this page are advocacy sites. We're not mainstream journalism with pretenses or attempts at impartiality, eager to avoid offending advertisers and subscribers. That's oranges. We're apples.
I also don't see your point in linking to the article about a protester's murder.
Might I ask cordially WTF you're on about? A "healing strategy" is not what's needed, and it seems unlikely that Russians were involved in the death of the Albrechts' family dog.
Please hurry up and make a point pertinent to this page.