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Wayland or X11? Why? (self.linux)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fix your wayland piece of shit or get it the fuck out of linux. Gatekeeping my ass. It does not FULLY replace X11 functionality, and they have no intent to fix that. Why go backwards and break what works for our daily jobs? It fucking moronic.

[–] shadearg 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does not FULLY replace X11 functionality, and they have no intent to fix that.

No kidding. That's the entire mission statement of Wayland.

Why go backwards and break what works for our daily jobs?

Nothing is stopping you from using X11 outside of company policy, which is an entirely different problem.

It fucking moronic.

No it's not.

I'm a longtime user of X11 and vastly prefer it for what I do, but I'm not going to force the opinion of my preference on others with different use case requirements.

C'mon, the *nix world is big enough for choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No kidding. That’s the entire mission statement of Wayland. Which is WRONG

Nothing is stopping you from using X11 outside of company policy, which is an entirely different problem. Not true. As things get made to be Wayland only, X11 is getting pushed out.

C’mon, the *nix world is big enough for choice. No, it isn't. Wayland is a toy for people who play. X11 is a tool for people who work.

Won't be long now before your your favorite DE's will only be available on Wayland, and be missing features because of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@PseudoSpock @shadearg can you provide real world example of X11 being pushed out ? Like a soft actually supporting it then dropping the support in favor of wayland ? I am curious

[–] shadearg 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not aware of any software phasing out X11 support in favor of Wayland.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sway is coming for i3 for example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@PseudoSpock but it is a completely different project, it is only i3 compatible as it could have been dwm compatible without being dwm.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It's intent is to replace it.

[–] shadearg 0 points 1 year ago

No, it isn't. Wayland is a toy for people who play. X11 is a tool for people who work.

The concept of work is relative. See below.

Won't be long now before your your favorite DE's will only be available on Wayland, and be missing features because of it.

That doesn't concern me at all personally—and if I wore your temperament on my sleeve, DEs should get the fuck away from X11 altogether.

My use case requirements have never involved DEs, and if I ever want to flirt with that kind of casual experience it may as well be with new boobs like Wayland.

I could huff "get off my lawn" just as hard as any other, but why? Let people choose whatever they want.