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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 year ago (22 children)

I don't want to sound like an incel, and I like eating vag/salad as much as the next guy, but imagine this image with the genders reversed

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

IMO either party doing this is fine as long as it's discussed and within the comfort bounds of the people in the relationship.

I think the problem is an expectation when there has been no discussion about whether or not it's within someone's limits.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I have no issue with oral sex between consenting adults. But this meme would not be as well received if the genders were reversed. It's hard to even imagine someone posting "always be there for your man in a time of crisis" with the woman going down on the guy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can only speak for myself but I wouldn't really mind it the other way around as long as there's no implied use of force or manipulation.

[–] Absolutemehperson 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Feel free to reverse the genders & post this on twitter then. Getting banned from the internet speedrun any%

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Twitter = the internet

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe "consenting" is key here.

The reason why it's taboo if the genders were reversed is because there is a long and well documented history of non-consent when genders are reversed.

Was there non-consent where gals are forcing guys? Very likely. However what evidence I've seen suggests this is dwarfed by guys forcing gals.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

im gonna post a reversed version of this im really curious what'll happen

[–] Touching_Grass 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

part of the joke is the reversal of the stereotype.
breaking stereotypes = good
enforcing stereotypes = bad

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes i imagined it, very nice. Whats the next step?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Fosheze 10 points 1 year ago

I love you and I'm saving this.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree that it would look quite different with the genders reversed. However, gender equality is not like mathematical equality, where every situation needs to be reversible.

Women have traditionally been less sex-positive and less dominant, which many consider indicators of a lack of true gender equality, so a progressive community will celebrate a reversal of that.

[–] AstridWipenaugh 13 points 1 year ago

Bad behavior is still bad behavior, regardless of who's doing it. The oppressed engaging in the same behavior as their former oppressors is not equality, it's just more oppression.

[–] 1847953620 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But situations regarding the handling of power dynamics and standards of consent/coercion absolutely should be reversible.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nothing wrong with a consenting partner

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Yes, but not quite the point I was making

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the problem is the assumption that the man is consenting. A meme is not a place to go for realistic depictions of sex, though. I think this one is playing off that to create conflict/engagement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's a joke. People lost their sense of humor

[–] demlet 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone here will pretend they would be fine with it now that you called out the hypocrisy. Or they'll argue men deserve it as some kind of "payback", in which case it's really not about equality of course.

[–] deus 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, they'll argue that men deserve what as a form of payback? Cause you're phrasing it like there's some kind of discrmination or persecution against men going on here and I fail to see it.

[–] demlet 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It doesn't have to be persecution to be sexist and therefore hypocritical in a culture that claims to be opposed to sexism. I'm personally fine with a joke like this, I just also happen to think that if the characters in this one were reversed there would be all sorts of outrage and accusations of toxic masculinity.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

What would be the issue then? 2 consenting people can show each other what they want sexually, no matter the gender

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be fine in a porn comic, but provoke a scandal in a "regular" memes community

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

In my mind she has a cock. She also is built like an amazon, so she can just lift me up and flip me round for some standing 69. Nice

[–] Touching_Grass 2 points 1 year ago

Its the internet. No imagination needed

[–] knotthatone 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't understand your comment at first because I thought the cartoons were both women. (I guess the one on the right had a bit of facial hair and masculine features.)

Switching it to two guys wouldn't make a difference but I can see how male-left, female-right might look worse. But it really shouldn't.

It's a short cartoon. I read it as a playful, consenting couple having fun with each other. I don't think it's one partner luring the other in on false pretenses of an emergency and forcing them to perform oral sex. The gender arrangement shouldn't affect that.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 4 points 1 year ago

But it would. That's the whole point.

If the genders were reversed it would be seen completely differently.

It shouldn't but it will.

[–] 1847953620 2 points 1 year ago
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