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14-year-old gang raped, cut into pieces while alive and burned in furnace.
(timesofindia.indiatimes.com)
this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2023
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These are the types of crimes where I don't think a quick execution is fair
I was thinking of letting the victim's close ones do what they want to the demons for one day, but I'm not sure what that would do with their psyche afterwards.
E: The psyche of those doing the retribution.
I do beleive in restorative justice but I do wonder ocassioanlly if we haven't gone too far into the concept that vengeance has zero place in justice
Yes, we have.
You should consider joining Isis.
Maybe not, but it is a humane thing to do, and it removes the problem.
Yeah. Torture is fine, so is a simple bullet to the back of the head.
Whichever is a bigger deterrent for these crimes should be enacted.
people don't commit these crimes with the expectation that they're going to be caught. I don't know how serious you are but I find it a little disturbing to condone torture
What do you think would be a more effective deterrent?
Sorry reality disturbs you. Let me know when you think of something better. It looks like these people weren't deterred by the possible consequences of their actions.
Anything but giving governments the power to torture people.
Alright. That's not a suggestion, but ok.
Knowing that one's existence will cease if they commit such crimes should serve as a sufficient deterrent.
It doesn't, though. There's no evidence that the death penalty serves any sort of deterrent. It isn't a punitive measure, it's vengeance. If you're ok with vengeance I respect your opinion though I disagree, but we can't pretend it's anything but vengeance.
I believe the use of the death penalty in severe cases isn't driven by vengeance; it's more about preventing the individual from causing harm to others in the future. It's important to recognize that not all criminals can be successfully rehabilitated, such as psychopaths or serial killers.
However, if the death penalty were to exist, I believe it should be carried out by the person who pronounces the verdict personally. This would ensure that such a grave decision is not made lightly.
Could you not prevent them from causing additional harm by not killing them? What if you're wrong? There's plenty of reason to leave them alive, but only one real reason to kill them, and that reason is vengeance.
Are you familiar with how the psychopathic mind functions? They lack empathy, and I don't mean it in a pejorative sense, no, I mean it literally.
Psychopaths are hard to reason with due to their lack of aforementioned empathy, manipulative nature, impulsivity, shallow emotions, and absence of remorse.
If they killed once, they will kill again.
I am. And there are plenty of ways to keep them from killing people aside from killing them. There's plenty of people serving life sentences for murder.
What about torturing them?
As a society, we should strive to be better than the people we judge for their crimes. Torturing people is just wrong, cruel, and unnecessary.
I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe when you get more life experience, you'll realize that most scumbags will only avoid engaging in heinous acts if the deterrent for doing so is appropriate.
If that was a deterrent you wouldn't have people still working for Mexican cartels, would you?
Let's say we do decide to torture murderers. Who is going to torture them? Are we going to pay for these people to have therapy (because they're really going to need it)? How would you feel if you found out your next-door neighbour tortures people for a living? What do we do when we find out, years later, that we've been torturing an innocent person?
I think you need a little more life experience so you can realize that things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are.
Gee, how did we ever do it in the past? It's never been done before, lol.
Study history, then come back.
Ah yes, what could go wrong with doing things the way they were done in the past?
You were arguing that it was impossible.
Now try to say something of substance.
You were arguing that it was the right thing to do.
Now try to say something of substance.
Sure, bud.
Goodbye.
Who are you talking to? That was my first comment here.