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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Basra the rate of leukemia in children rose dramatically and that is too specific of a disease to not be linked to DU exposure due to the heavy use of it in surrounding tank battles.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you you it's not linked to any of the other hundreds of dangerous chemicals?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Because the issue is specific to the region and started specifically after the tank battle where DU ammunition was used. If it would be a general issue with some dangerous chemical being used, we'd expect to see similiar issues in other regions. Of course it is hypotheticakky possible that at the same time some dangerous and persistant chemical exposure happened in the region, but that is not plausible and also the US would have a strong interest in finding such an alternative explanation. But there isn't any research published, that provided an alternative.

Also look into the wording of the US when sending the ammunition to Ukraine. They state that no radiation hazard is to be expected for the Ukrainians. They do not talk about a toxicological hazard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. correlation ≠ causation. 2) if the disease is caused by DU, is it due to the radioactivity or the fact that DU is a heavy metal?
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i never said it had to be because of radiation. Even just in its effect as a heavy metal it seems to be much worse. Also it could be that it becomes airborn more easily than other metals such as lead, so the wreckage of tanks shot with DU are more dangerous to the people cleaning them up.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you so worried about speculated harms when Ukrainians are actually being raped, tortured, and murdered by russians? Your lack of humanity is showing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Turning "we need to weigh benefits and costs" into "your lack of humanity is showing" is quite a take and obviously has nothing to do with reality.

[–] severien 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How about letting Ukrainians make that cost/benefit analysis for their own country? I think they're grown-ups, no need to patronize.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's not the Ukrainian people who decide, it's the Ukrainian government that decides, and America basically decides what they decide

[–] severien -2 points 1 year ago

Ukrainian government has a very high approval rate among the population.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Are you really this delusional? Sure Ukraine has their own uranium munitions that they can decide to use anytime they want... When does the public get to decide on what happens with the tax money - fund schools, build infrastructure, etc. or send radioactive ammunition to fuel a proxy war in some corrupt country?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Weighing costs and benefits happens with a comprehensive set of actual facts, not a hodgepodge of speculations and fearmongering that play into the fascists' hands