News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
let’s see them argue this for copying and further altering other people’s styles manually.
you know, what we call “art”.
you telling me all those people that thought “oh wow that artist’s method of using long curving lines is awesome, im going to try that too.” are somehow different than the act of visually scraping everything and then telling ai to create X in the styles of Y and Z?
sorry, but no.
if it is someone copying someone’s exact style and the acting as though the artist made it, that’s where it’s crossing a line. personally i think doing a carbon copy of a persons work is grounds for legal complaint.
but this shit? no.
I think I agree for the most part. Out of interest, do you think artists should be allowed to legally prohibit future iterations of AI art from using their original works for training?
depends. if they do that, no lie, they invite the streisand effect by doing so.
the only way for that to occur is for the person to scrub the internet of all references to their art work and make sure any public or private viewings happen in person with no capture devices of any kind allowed. then you have a chance at accomplishing not having your art be absorbed.
the reality is, if it exists on the net, it will be absorbed by others out there. sometimes just out of sheer spite. if it weren’t so easy to shit out a home brew ai stable diffusion model or lora in hours, then sure, there might be a way of legally pursuing. fortunately art is now going to become so democratized that there will be a myriad of new artists to copy from.
but at this point that’s like trying to shut down pepe the frog as a meme. just ain’t gonna happen. pepe’s been let out of the box.
i think the artists are scared that with ai in the mix, they’re going to be replaced. but that’s not true the same as painters weren’t replaced by photoshop and digital painters. they could actually embrace the change and lean into it, but unfortunately people tend to be like lemmings in their own echo chambers and the artist echo chamber said “THIS IS BAD! THIS IS STEALING!” never once thinking about all the methods they’ve stolen from others along the way. oh sorry, we will call it “influenced”. my bad.
but yeah, if they lean into it, great things can occur. a friend of mine has literally trained a private home brew model of her own artwork and then added in shit tons of fantasy concepts into the mix. as a result, a shit ton of her heavy lifting for illustration in graphic novels is already done. artists could be using it for inspiration or for reference.
honestly i can’t wait for the artist echo chamber to just calm tf down