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I would but Firefox is behind on many things including UI, speed, and other things. One of the main reasons is compatibility. A lot of things in html, css, and js don't yet work in Firefox but do on chromium based browsers. This is even clearly outlined by Mozilla in mdn web docs. The only thing with worse compatibility is safari (who could've seen that one coming). Also it seems like this is a Google thing so it probably only affects chrome and not chromium. I'm waiting for arc to be on Windows but if you want chrome without most of Google's spyware shit just use chromium. You don't need a chromium based browser if you can just use chromium itself.
Edit: you guys need to chill with the responses. There is so many that sync won't let me respond despite me writing paragraphs that address everything you guys are concerned about like saying everything works (all of webkit doesn't).
Firefox is faster than chrome now.
Unless you have several tabs open then it begins to bog down
Edit: I was speaking from real world experience with both, I'm a power user so my issues are probably an edge case but I have more issues with Firefox hanging than I did chrome. Despite that I won't be switching back to chrome as I don't like their recent push towards drm and disabling ad blocked
Mine runs fine with many many tabs, I basically don't think about it.
Sometimes people will test browser speed by opening a different browser for the first time while the other is still running. Opening chrome while Firefox is running can make chrome look slow, and so will the opposite.
If you actually test properly, you won't notice a difference. Officially, Firefox is faster
I'm a power user as well, and Firefox handles my hundreds of tabs perfectly fine. On Android it honestly handles them better than Chrome, though there are a few UI features missing there, like tab reordering.
Btw tab reordering is only missing for private tabs on the latest ff on Android.
Unfortunately there is still no acceleration when reordering so the ux is not great when you have many tabs.
Maybe it's an issue with my PC or an extension then, bummer
I'd say generally speaking it's more likely that issues stem from extensions than from Firefox itself, so maybe try looking into that.
After doing some testing, there were a few things that could have caused it, I had a lot of saved sessions from one extension, I cleared those out and lowered the amount of sessions it can store, I had a session app that would cloudsync my sessions, and I noticed when it was syncing another tab manager extension I was using shit the bed so I disabled the cloudsynver one, and I good ol reddit enhancement suite and moderator toolbox were still enabled, and for some reason it seems one of those two were bogging down other things quite a bit.
As of now it's running muuuuch more smoothly
What “things in html, css, and js” does Firefox not support that prevents you from using it?
WebGPU has been the biggest one for me, but most sites don’t even use it.
The only thing I've found that Firefox didn't work right with is certain SharePoint features, which unfortunately is a show stopper for me.
Firefox has been slow to roll out some new CSS features. As an example I have been waiting a long time for the has() pseudo-class. TBF it’s behind a flag but the other browsers have had it for a while now. They were also the last browser to roll out container queries.
Although this doesn’t prevent me from using Firefox it does make me unable to use all the newest shiny CSS features when developing websites.
I love Firefox but the slow pace they release features is a bummer. I wish they had more resources to out towards new css featuress
That sounds like someone who has never even used Firefox in the last 10+ years. What the hell dude.
Show me a popular website that doesn't work in Firefox.
portal.office.com
Yeah the broad strokes work but lots of little features are broken in the admin center and in sharepoint
The compatibility issues arise only because Chrome/Chromium dominates the market, hence Google weld the power to define the web standards.
This argument does exist, yes, but you as a user have an obligation to be more than a mindless consumer. You can make informed choices also. Many people (maybe not a majority, granted) do
If this is your attitude then you deserve all the bad things google does to you.
This honestly sounds kinda pathetic, I hope you’re arguing just to argue.
@kadu i have said this a million times. In lots of cases, open-source linux based software doesnt cut it for a lot of work use cases :(
Where did I mention Linux? Oh yeah Chromium that Chrome is based on is open source too. Doesn't that work for you?
@umami_wasbi the bot reblogged you and nobody had even mentioned you and its a lil funny
Yeah but if anything doesn't work correctly it's specifically because of the Chromium monopoly on the direction of web development. It's almost a reason unto itself to move to Firefox. It's like saying "what's the point in shopping at a mom and pop store when Amazon basically won the future of capitalism anyway?" As an argument it's just "let's give up and let Google win."
You're being down voted and yet there's daily posts on Firefox about x or y website not working lmao. Specifically things like YouTube and twitch. And lemmings, don't virtue signal at me and pretend you don't use those websites and instead use a fedi alternative
Uh, my main browser is Firefox on windows. I’m what cases does YouTube or twitch not work? I don’t use twitch anymore, but as of 4 years ago it was working fine. YouTube works fine as of last night for me
I've used Firefox on YouTube and Twitch for thousands of hours over the last years.. never an issue. Doesn't matter if it's normal videos, memberships, live streams, chats, Prime rewards, reward drops, uploading videos to my own channel, ..
Actually there was a small issue with live chats on YouTube having a memory leak, but that has been fixed for over a year now.