United Kingdom

4114 readers

479 users here now

General community for news/discussion in the UK.

Less serious posts should go in [email protected] or [email protected]
More serious politics should go in [email protected].

Try not to spam the same link to multiple feddit.uk communities.
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric news, and should be either a link to a reputable source, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread.

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

85% Of Car Drivers Break 20mph Speed Limits, Reveals U.K.’s Department For Transport (www.forbes.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

38 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Statistics published today by the U.K. Department for Transport (DfT) show that in 2022 85% of the car drivers in Great Britain broke the law by driving faster than the speed limit in 20mph zones. On roads with a 30mph maximum, 50% of car drivers broke the law, reveals the annual DfT report on speed limit compliance.

The measurements are based on speed data from a sample of Automatic Traffic Counters (ATCs) around the country. These exclude locations where external factors might restrict driver behavior, such as at junctions, on hills, beside sharp bends or where speed cameras are visible, says the DfT report.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not missing the point at all. I'm saying that those that already break the rule won't obey the new rule.

Beside a single car has a driver who is liable. A thousand cars has shared liability in the form of local government. Damage through speeding is a singular liabilty. Damage through air quality is group liability.

You can't compare the two.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@wewbull @Syldon You compared the two.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@wewbull
That's categorical thought, which is an error with a continuous variable such as speed.

That they break, or do not break, the law ("rule" doesn't quite describe it).

You may also care to consider that if one driver does not exceed the limit, it moderates the speed of others behind - you've presented this as an individual decision, uninfluenced by others, but even taken as a guideline others have influence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I am comparing the liability issue and how responsible people react. There is a huge problem with liability claims and costs. People in charge of money need to show they have done due diligence. You are right that some will never obey the rules, but that comes under an SEP (somebody else's problem). It will no longer be the problem of a council.