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domination is inevitable (self.lemmyworld)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by AlmightySnoo to c/lemmyworld
 

EDIT: we just crossed 30K πŸ₯³


We are now at 28.5K users (see https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list). The top 10 instances also got a decent boost in user count. With the exception of beehaw.org which defederated, the Fediverse is thriving πŸ”₯

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[–] eric5949 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was on beehaw until they defederated, just seemed like the wrong answer to me and one that will just end up being damaging to Lemmy, especially the way they went about it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Defederation is kind of a core concept of Lemmy isn’t it?

[–] eric5949 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well if I didn't understand that I'd not be on this instance now. I just didn't like how they did it with 0 warning when those instances were increasingly a big part of my Lemmy experience, and they could have just asked for people to volunteer as mods. Regardless of how I feel about it, the reason it's damaging is because of how people who don't understand it will view it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

But if you're not on their site, they're not responsible to you. They are responsible to their local community.

They maybe could have spared your admin the courtesy of a "if you can't control this right now, we'll have to defederate" email or something, but if the tools aren't there to keep up, they're not there.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah. People struggle with the idea of "independent websites" when you can view posts from them on other websites.

And when there isn't a hedge fund backing them.

[–] Spacebar 17 points 1 year ago

A server has every right to run however they want. I agree.

What I have a problem with are the server discovery tools and sites still listing beehaw as if it is participating in the fedeverse the same way as all of the other truly open servers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you originally from beehaw? I've seen you defending them many times and I almost always agree with your points. Keep up the good work 🫑

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. I've never actually directly been to the site.

I just stumbled into Mastodon last April to watch people flee Twitter, and fell in love with the whole distributed social concept.

The Internet was a digital anarchist space when I first encountered it in the 90s, and that's what I want it to be again. And the right to disengage is tied up in that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cool. You're a valuable contributor and I hope you stick around. I was also hoping for an opportunity to apologize to beehaw on behalf of my server 🀷

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This exchange right here, sir.

Wholesome. Thank you.

[–] PsychoticBananaSplit 15 points 1 year ago

It is, but also federating is a core-er concept of Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I was on beehaw too. I'm not happy with the defederation but I understand.

I left but I'm happy it's great if it's working for them. This is why a federation is great, there is option for everyone.