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Dunking on Tankies from a leftist perspective.

A tankie is someone who defends/supports authoritarian or even totalitarian regimes who call themselves "socialist". The term originated from people supporting the 1956 invasion of Hungary by the Soviet Union. Nowadays they are just terminally online, denying genocides, and falling for totalitarian propaganda and calling such regimes "true democracies". remember to censor usernames when necessary.

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An 8-panel Phoebe Teaching Joey meme.

The first panel is Phoebe from Friends saying "Russia".

The second panel is Joey from the same show replying with "Russia".

The third panel is Phoebe saying "has invaded".

The fourth panel is Joey repeating back "has invaded".

The fifth panel is Phoebe saying "Ukraine".

The sixth panel is Joey repeating back "Ukraine".

The seventh panel is Phoebe saying the completed phrase "Russia has invaded Ukraine".

The final panel shows Joey proudly proclaiming "NATO just started a proxy war".

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with tankies is that they have latched on to the Stalinist notion of the necessity for dictatorship to achieve the unification of the proletariat and the dismantling of the Plutarchy. The other problem is most of them are Soviboos obsessed with Russia and the USSR in general.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It would be fine if they were consistent. Wrong, but fine.

What grinds my gears is the full on simp-itry of Putin and Xi in particular. None are communist in any way. Both full on capitalists. I would argue USSR was never communist but even so the cut off date was 1991 everything after has absolutely no left wing whatsoever.

Tankies are just atheist MAGAs with a different God Emperor they worship.

[–] Cryophilia 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tankies are just anti America edge lords. I'm surprised they haven't started claiming Iran is somehow a communist country.

[–] assassin_aragorn 11 points 1 year ago

They fall for the fallacy that because America hasn't done great things in its history, "not America" must be virtuous and a moral paragon. They don't realize that there can be even darker evils instead. It's a simplistic worldview where the bad guy's enemy must be a good guy, not an even worse bad guy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Give them enough time and dissonance and they’ll get there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If Xi is a full on capitalist, how do I make the capitalists in my country charge billionaires with crimes and actually convict them?

Here in the US, our capitalists are so brazen they steal billions a year in wage theft, they spend the majority of their companies profits on stock buybacks and lay off employees while making the remaining workers pick up the extra load with no extra compensation, they buy politicians and literally write the majority of all of our regulation. They bury studies that show their contribution to the climate crisis, they spend billions on misinformation campaigns to take the targets off their back.. they sabotage renewable energy and prevent meaningful investment in public transportation. They lobby to further increase our military budget, which serves primarily as a welfare pot for military industrial corporations, who can charge exorbitant prices for garbage products, and who’s lobbying efforts have sufficiently restricted the market as to prevent new players from entering.

I mean, fuck dude, there is literally more inequality than prior to the French Revolution. We’ve walked straight into neo-feudalism, and people are more concerned with utopian visions of the future than actually creating change in the present.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the difference is Hierarchy.

Xi and Putin put themselves at the tippy top while in the US due to how "democracy" works, who's in charge can shift around. Billionaires here are the higher ups while the government acts as contractors/employees to them. You can't fire your boss.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So what you’re saying is, in China, the capitalists aren’t the boss, but they are here?