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[โ€“] cedarmesa 78 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] DevilsVice 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think that goes for all authoritarians really, I mean, post WW2 east Germany was the German Democratic Republic, which was anything but democratic under Soviet occupation. Fascists for sure, but don't think authoritarian communists don't use the same playbook.

[โ€“] Eldritch 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While I definitely think it's a bad idea to closely equate the two. You are not that wrong. Fascists are far worse. But authoritarians in general are not desirable. When those in control of absolute power feel threatened for their power the well-being of those underneath them goes out the window. It's how you get waves of genocide under fascists. And dissenters under authoritarian leninist communism shooting themselves in the back of the head three times or falling out of the window backwards onto bullets.

[โ€“] MiddleWeigh 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like a people problem to me. We really gotta take better care of ourselves, don't we? All of us. How do you ever stop this from happening? Where do we go from here? I guess that's why the status quo is upheld.

What a slow rolling machine we are.

[โ€“] Eldritch 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It definitely is a problem of human nature to be sure. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Most people just want to live their lives and don't seek power. The few that do seek power generally should never have it. But we do need some minimal power structures.

Part of the biggest issues is education. In western nations Political literacy and education is purposefully deficient. Because it benefits those in charge of the systems. Not to say it isn't similar in other style countries. Ignorance is always a useful tool however.

[โ€“] MiddleWeigh 1 points 2 years ago

Yep. There is an obvious malice for personal gain. I can feel it.

I always narrow it down to education. But how. The ideology is so strewn about, by design.

We'd need to teach stuff like mindfulness in school. Something that should be taught, but would be looked down on as some flavor of other. I wish I was taught to think and live. I was taught how to keep my head down and hate myself. This is just how it is.

They really dug in deep. All over the world. Kudos to them for holding "power", whatever that is. I can feel it before I go to bed, telling me what I'm not allowed to say aloud.

People even pray to the ugly thing. Imagine that. Praying to something other than your own wellbeing and the wellbeing of others prayers.