this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2023
2507 points (97.7% liked)
Political Memes
5415 readers
3049 users here now
Welcome to politcal memes!
These are our rules:
Be civil
Jokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.
No misinformation
Don’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.
Posts should be memes
Random pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.
No bots, spam or self-promotion
Follow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/news/anklage-gegen-thueringer-afd-chef-bjoern-hoecke-wegen-ns-vokabular-li.355905
https://www.stern.de/amp/politik/deutschland/afd-aussteigerin---die-nazis-in-der-partei-stoeren-die-leute-nicht-mehr--33744578.html
https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/demonstranten-duerfen-afd-politiker-bjoern-hoecke-als-nazi-bezeichnen-v1,ermittlungen-hoecke-ist-ein-nazi-eingesellt-100.html
https://taz.de/AfD-Parteitag-in-Magdeburg/!5947746/
The party is full of (Neo)Nazis, even in high ranks; one of them may even officially be called Nazi. Their whole program and style is essentially NSDAP playbook.
The most nazi thing in the links you provided were the government banning certain slogans.
What is your definition of nazi as that will probably explain a few things.
You had use of a banned slogan. A nazi accusation, party memeber leaving due to claims of right wing infiltration.
None of that is evidence of them being nazi's. Sus for sure but pretty weak.
I just did another quick google search regarding the somewhat recent arrests from that attempted coup. Albeit they were former members of the party so i guess too extreme for the AFD. And well not very competent or numerous.
But thats kinda something.
https://www.google.com/search?q=afd+party+arrests&oq=afd+party+arrests&aqs=chrome..69i57.5059j0j7&client=ms-android-gotron&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
They are against immigrants, want to suppress freedom, want to separate kids with disabilities from other kids in schools, etc. They not just tolerate but supports Nazis like Höcke, who btw. told an inteviewer once that once he's in power, the interviewer will regret asking those questions.
I mean sure, we can pretend that they are not as bad as the NSDAP was back then and do the same thing we did with the NSDAP: giving them power. But then we will just end up with the next Nazi government like last time. I would prefer not to.
They are against immigrants,
Not a nazi thing. Lot of governments are. While not the most economically beneficial it is a countries right to want them or not.
want to suppress freedom,
They have a government that banns slogans/free speech.
Is the current german government nazi's?/facist?
By all means it can make them tyrannical or authotarian but doesnt make them nazi's unless said limitation of freedom is based
On control of everything inside the state Nothing aganist the state And nothing outside the state.
Then yeah thats Grade A nazi's
want to separate kids with disabilities from other kids in schools,
If they are coming at it from an ubermensch angle then yeah sure. Depending on the disability there is plenty of valid reasons to want seperate classes. Personal example is that we have a special ed class for kids that are on the spectrum that makes them incompatible with other students or larger classes. But im guessing its not something reasonable like that.
etc. They not just tolerate but supports Nazis like Höcke, who btw. told an inteviewer once that once he’s in power, the interviewer will regret asking those questions
As scum of the earrh journalists can be. Not a good choice of words as a politician.
Sure, you can relativize each individual point and completely ignore the big picture. Just remember that even the NSDAP didn't advertise themselves with "vote for us so we can slaughter 6 million people and start a world war". If you want to ignore that the AfD shows the same signs as the NSDAP did before they got control, sure. But don't cry when we end up with the next piece of shit Nazi government in Germany that starts to errode democracy until it has full power.
I have no issue with taking signs seriously it's just that your signs with the exception of the suppression of freedoms sign. Arent nazi/facist exclusive. The worlds full of problems and nazi's are no longer the biggest ones. Far more corrupting and damaging influences that take priority and my concerns