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India demands more visas for nurses and care workers as price for free trade deal
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I mean... The UK wants more nurses and care workers right? Why would it say no?
Because it's toxic for the type of brexiteers who objected to the EU because it meant there were more foreigners in the country. Even "worse", these people will mostly be visible minorities.
This is a crucial constituency for the Conservative party.
People were warned in the run up that we'd have to bring in workers from somewhere and if not the EU then probably the commonwealth. I personally wasn't bothered as I feel more kinship with West Indians and Indians than most people in the EU based on my life experience.
Exactly. And let's not also forget the Labour majority in the red wall that voted for Brexit. Equally abhorrent.
Because Brexiters are irrational. I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
I would much rather have relied on the workforce of the EU than selling our country off to the lowest common denominator.
We were relying on medical staff from India and the West Indies long before we joined the EU and freedom of movement began. Should we not have good relations with our own commonwealth?
That's pretty racist my friend. Why is your assumption that Indians are, in your words, the "lowest common denominator"?
That's a pretty outdated way to think.
GDP per capita. That is not racism. it is fact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
Not everyone is a racist.
Err, sorry what does GDP per capita have to do with skilled nurses and care workers? As long as they are skilled who cares where they come from. Would you refuse to be treated by an Indian nurse because he or she came from a country whose GDP per capita was lower than a French one? Grow up.
You have to do better than to pretend your comment is anything other than racist. Fucking hell this sort of thinking is still popular these days. Disgusting.
Coming from the most racist country in the world this is brilliant.
India has issues I would rather not deal with until they can change. The education system is not good for everyone, it is good for the privileged few. Corruption is rife across the country. So no it is **NOT **racism, it is statement of fact. India is a very poor nation in terms of GDP. There are consequences to that.
If they're coming here to work in non-profit industries like healthcare, what's this got to do with anything?
A majority of the treatment in the NHS is privatised. There is profit in healthcare. Talk to anyone from the US about that.
Still doesn't explain why you're so worried about it when it represents systematic issues and not individuals.
I never said I was worried. I said it would be better to deal with the EU over India.
I also don‘t get your point. Will health care workers from India be paid less than the ones from the EU? Will they provide a lesser service? Or do you think we shouldn‘t take away expertise from developing countries?
India would not get accepted into the EU due to the standards India maintains. In this light, I suppose the EU must be racist also. I think along the same lines as the EU. India is part of the BRICS group. Send your expertise to Russia. They need bodies a lot more than we do.
Mate no-one is talking about admitting India to the EU. What a way to throw a non sequitur into the mix to deflect from your original daft point.
The topic is about accepting skilled Indian health workers and carers for which you said you would rather not accept and deal with the EU instead. Yet you provide no explanation of why instead coming up with absurd GDP per capita figures and now EU membership.
You're basically saying Europeans are good enough to come to this country but Indians are not. That's absolutely disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.
No my friend disgusting is supporting Russia against Ukraine.
Again, what has this to do with health care workers? What benefit is it to you to make sweeping degrading generalisations of Indian people like you're doing?
After all the campaigns and education in schools about ending racism, you're a classic example of why we still have a long way to go. It properly makes me sick to think there's people like you in this country.
You keep on trying. Meanwhile you have never denied India has to be near the top of the pile when it comes to racism and segregation systems.
🙄 this is the UN study of racism and segregation you're pointing to or your mate Nigel down the pub told you this?
Does India have elements of their population that are racist, yes. Does the EU have elements of their population that are racist, yes. Does India have qualified nurses and health care workers that the UK needs, yes. Does the EU have qualified nurses and health care workers that the UK needs, yes. Should we allow qualified health care workers and nurses into the UK to meet demand, of course we should yes.
However your take seems to be that we should exclude qualified Indians because what exactly? Their... checks notes... GDP per capita is wrong? Come off it, buddy. You're not fooling anyone with your back handed racism. Despicable.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-racist-countries
Are we done with pathetic attempt to vent your anger on the west ?
😂 how long did you have to Google to find that definitive list?
Also I notice you're not answering any challenge about the original point regarding skilled workers? Instead preferring to advance your racism agenda.
Why are you racist? What happened to you as a child?
I know what happened to this child. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-66629952
Again, nothing to do with the quality of skilled nurses. Just more racist dog whistling from you the racist. Sad.
Everything is fine.
It is not my fault you have a nation I don't want anything to do with.
You are racist, self serving with war profits, while at the same time offering nothing in GDP per capita. There nothing whatsoever would make me want to keep a trade deal with India over the EU.
Which happens to throw a huge amount of support to Ukraine, has checks and balance against discrimination, and guess what they have a decent GPD per capita. Are you really so uneducated you cannot work it out?
You specifically started out saying that you didn't want qualified Indians in positions that the UK needs and tried to support this racist view by quoting GDP figures.
Imagine someone said the same about, oh I don't know, Irish people. Imagine they said Irish qualified nurses shouldn't be allowed to work in the UK because Ireland is a tax haven? Do you hear how daft and racist that is? Yet you can't see how daft and racist you sound when you talk about Indians?
Are you really this bitter about foreigners?
Were you trying hard to give an answer as silly as possible, or does it come natural?
You'd rather rely on the economic group you exited than the country you colonized?
I would rather work with the countries I know rather than one I don't. I won't dragged down that route. Try someone else.
You don't know India? A country the UK has had a relationship with since long before the EU existed, who are part of our commonwealth, who's culture is so infused with our own we have their restaurants on every high street, temples for their various religions all over the nation, domestically developed "Indian" dishes like Tikka Masala?
Sounds like a you problem, because it certainly isn't a UK problem.
You don't know India?
Er yeah, I said that. You want me to type it more slowly for you?