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OpenAI now tries to hide that ChatGPT was trained on copyrighted books, including J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series::A new research paper laid out ways in which AI developers should try and avoid showing LLMs have been trained on copyrighted material.

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[–] Touching_Grass 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

And it should be able to freely use anything that's available to it. These massive corporations and entities have exploited all the free spaces to advertise and sell us their own products and are now sour.

If they had their way they are going to lock up much more of the net behind paywalls. Everybody should be with the LLMs on this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are somehow conflating "massive corporation" with "independent creator," while also not recognizing that successful LLM implementations are and will be run by massive corporations, and eventually plagued with ads and paywalls.

People that make things should be allowed payment for their time and the value they provide their customer.

[–] Touching_Grass 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People are paid. But they're greedy and expect far more compensation then they deserve. In this case they should not be compensated for having an LLM ingest their work work if that work was legally owned or obtained

[–] assassin_aragorn 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Except the massive corporations and entities are the ones getting rich on this. They're seeking to exploit the work of authors and musicians and artists.

Respecting the intellectual property of creative workers is the anti corporate position here.

[–] uis 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except corporations have infinitely more resources(money, lawyers) compared to people who create. Take Jarek Duda(mathematician from Poland) and Microsoft as an example. He created new compression algorythm, and Microsoft came few years later and patented it in Britain AFAIK. To file patent contest and prior art he needs 100k£.

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there's an important distinction to make here between patents and copyright. Patents are the issue with corporations, and I couldn't care less if AI consumed all that.

[–] uis 2 points 1 year ago

And for copyright there is no possible way to contest it. Also when copyright expires there is no guarantee it will be accessable by humanity. Patents are bad, copyright even worse.

[–] uis 0 points 1 year ago

There is nothing anti corporate if result can be alienated.

[–] Touching_Grass -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Large number of these Artist, musicians and authors is corporate America today. And those authors artists and musicians have exploited all our spaces for far too long. Most of the internet had been turned toxic due to their greed. I wish they take their content and go find their own spaces instead of mooching off everybody else's. These LLMs are only doing what they've done

[–] assassin_aragorn 2 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry, what?

[–] CosmicCleric 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they had their way they are going to lock up much more of the net behind paywalls.

This!

When the Internet was first a thing corpos tried to put everything behind paywalls, and we pushed back and won.

Now, the next generation is advocating to put everything behind a paywall again?

[–] Touching_Grass 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its always weird to me how the old values from early internet days sort of vanished. Is it by design there aren't any more Richard Stallmans or is it the natural progression on an internet that was taken over

[–] CosmicCleric 4 points 1 year ago

Not to inject politics into this, but the Internet started off way more socialist than it is today.

Capitalism creeping in taking over slowly. And it's being done in a slow boiling the toad in a pot sort of way.