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Removal of piracy communities (self.lemmyworld)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin to c/lemmyworld

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Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[–] gila 21 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I read the whole post, understand the reasons and respect them. Ultimately piracy is one of the topics I'm here to read about, so these changes still make lemmy.world a less usable instance for me and I don't like that

[–] Stuxnet 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I have a question. Let's say there's a piracy community on a different lemmy instance. I can still subscribe to it and interact with this lemmy world account, correct? Is there any difference at all between communities on your "home" instance versus external communities other than it showing as {community_name}@{lemmy_instance}?

Edit: oh I see, they actually banned access to the piracy community of a whole different instance too? That seems crazy?? I can understand removing piracy community from your own instance but what on earth is the rationale behind removing access to a whole different servers community?? I'm going to move now I've seen this.

[–] Carighan 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because in German jurisdiction, linking to illegal content can bring with it fines. It's ridiculous, but that's where we are, more specifically we have a lawyer who is insanely prolific at sending out legal threats and asking for ridiculous amounts of money for this.

And now the problem: Due to the way ActivityPub works, one instance "pulls" the links posted on another instance to itself. At that point, lemmy.world is hosting links to content XYZ, not the other instance. Hence they'd be legally actionable. And being the largest instance of lemmy, this is the one any lawyer firm wanting to make quick bucks or any music industry wanting to appear like they're doing anything worth all the money to their consitutents would go after this one, not any other instance.

The protocol is a bit of a double-edged sword: Yes you're not hosting the content, but if links can be fined then those get pulled over essentially without you being able to do shit about it.

[–] CaptainEffort 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem is that these communities never linked to any form of illegal content. It’s against their rules to do so. So no laws were being broken.

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