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[–] exterstellar 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure plenty of companies including Lenovo still make chunky workstations, no?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but we're talking about laptops.

[–] zefiax 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Laptops are primarily designed with portability in mind. If I wanted a work station I would use one. When you are traveling regularly and carrying a laptop in your backpack, every gram counts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

See:

Doesn’t mean they can’t offer both, and there’s no reason they can’t have status lights, 7-row keyboards, and reasonable port offerings (even if it’s mostly a bunch of USB C ports, which can service just about anything) in a smaller package, it’s that they’re cheap, lazy fucks selling trends instead of utility.

So now you get less and less utility and maintainability for the same or greater price. They spend less on engineering and charge you the same or more for it. Fuck them.

[–] zefiax 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's absolutely not true. It is very difficult to develop lighter and thinner laptops. And the main utility of a laptop is for it to meet my needs while being portable. The portability is the main utility. A laptop like this will meet the utility needs for 99% of the population while giving them what they are looking for from a laptop the most, portability.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bullshit. Even the smallest 12" ThinkPads had all of these things. They were lightweight and compact, and still had 7-row keyboards, a status light for everything, and a plethora of ports.

[–] zefiax 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would rather have a bigger screen and thinner profile than all that bs. I don't need all these ports, a few usb-c's is enough. I don't need a 7 row keyboard, 6 is enough. And I am probably a more technical user than the vast majority of people so the vast majority of people need even less. What they want is something that is super light, big screen, looks sleek, and good enough to browse the web and maybe make a powerpoint presentation once in a while. You need to realize your use case is an extremely tiny market segment and in most cases, people with your use case realize they should be using a work station to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t need a 7 row keyboard, 6 is enough

I don't care about the number of rows, specifically, it's the particular layout that 7-row keyboards have. The point of a 7-row keyboard is having the text nav keys arranged the same as a desktop keyboard, like so:

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Versus this clusterfuck:

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I use those nav keys constantly and completely by feel. The very specific placement they have on a 7-row is critical to productivity without having to constantly fuck around with the mouse/trackpoint/trackpad. 6-row keyboards are dogshit.

[–] zefiax 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am aware what a 7 row keyboard is. My point is the vast majority of consumers don't use or care for such a feature, especially if it means they get a slighter thinner, lighter, sleeker laptop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you met the vast majority of consumers? They're dipshits.

[–] zefiax 1 points 1 year ago

In your opinion. Secondly if the vast majority of consumers were chimps, then we would market what appeals to chimps. I don't see how pointing out that the vast majority of consumers are dipshits changes anything. Companies will still market to the people who buy their products. Not super niche use cases.