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Shop owner shot, killed over rainbow flag outside clothing store near Lake Arrowhead
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You're not allowed to get strapped up like a larping moron in every western country in the world that isn't the US.
The US would be doing a lot better if they stopped pretending like they were the only country in the world that's ever tried to solve a problem. Owning guns just increases the chance that you or a family member will commit suicide or a murder suicide.
No they wouldn't. Our military doesn't even need to respond most of the time, just the cops, and when they do these jackasses are so poorly trained and organized, The National Guard doesn't even get to play with their big toys.
Source: lefty (in both ways) Navy Veteran, and there are way more of us than the braying jackasses want to admit
Lately I've been thinking that if congress got shot up as often as schools did, we would have sane gun control with bipartisan support
Negative. Gun Control in the United States predates the founding of the country and it was both racist and classist from the very outset. As documented in that link Gun Control laws have been around for over 200 years and were instituted against Blacks but also against the Irish, the Chinese, and Native Americans.
Your comment is based on The Mulford Act, a stupid and racist piece of California legislation passed with bi-partisan effort and signed by then Governor Ronald Reagan in response to publicly armed Black Panthers. It wasn't even close the first serious gun control law to get passed.
For instance Mulford was modeled on The Sullivan Act enacted by New York State in 1911. It intentionally targeted Italian immigrants, another distinct minority at the time.
This country has ALWAYS enacted Gun Control in response to racial and class elements.
In yesterday's society it was to protect the wealth and position of the Upper and Middle classes. In today's society it's because it seems like an obvious response to things like Mass Shootings and Gun Crime. The hidden in plain sight truth though is that modern day Gun Control proposals are doing the same thing as yesterday's Gun Control proposals because if you have enough money they will not apply to you.
Pass a new Federal Assault Weapons Ban? No problem for the wealthy, they'll just drop $20,000 on a pre-ban machine gun that can be legally transferred to them. Pass a Federal "Red Flag" law? They don't care as they know it'll never be enforced against them; their connections, money, and lawyers will see to it. Federal UBC? Again, no worries as their connections, money, and lawyers all make sure they won't be impacted. Remove the 2nd Amendment and ban the private ownership of firearms? No worries, the bodyguards surrounding them and their families will still be armed, just like they are everywhere else in the world.
What makes it even more stupid is that no direct causal link between the number of guns in circulation and the amount of "Gun Crime", however you define that, has ever been shown. In fact the data shows something very different than the reality most people believe in.
The household ownership rate has been bouncing around the low to mid 40s since 1972.. The population of the US grew from 240M in 1972 to 322M in 2014 too, so that 40% household ownership rate includes an addition 80 Million people.
The number of NICS (Federal Background Checks) in the United States quadrupled from 10 Million per year to 40 Million per year between 1998 and 2020.
Meanwhile Intentional Homicide fell from it's high of 9.82 in 1991 to 4.4 in 2014, a decrease of 50%. Gun Crime specifically peaked in 1993 and then declined by 49% over the next 20 years.
In short US Citizens bought a SHIT ton of guns starting in the 90s and tens of millions of new owners were added as our population grew...all while both Violent and Gun Crime continued to drop. We have a problem for sure, but it ain't the number of guns in circulation.
It's a good theory and one that I bought into as well but the statistics should have stayed down if that was the cause. Since they didn't there must have been another factor.
Unfortunately Violent and Firearm Crime statistics started climbing again in 2015. The pandemic may have played a role but it cannot be the cause.
So? In what world does that necessitate you owning a gun? One where Robert Evans's civil war happens?
The idea that everyone needs to be strapped because a few morons are, is paranoid race to the bottom thinking, not how you make a better future.
Oh yeah, Canadian and European women are just casually murdered and raped all the time cause they're not strapped. That's so totally a thing that happens and we all hear about in the news day after day!
Is that stat higher in Canada / Europe or the US?
[citation needed]
Yes you've made it very clear that you value your own paranoia over the statistical safety of everyone.
Yeah, you didn't answer the question. European and Canadian women do not get raped at a higher rate than American women, despite not being strapped up like a commando.
And guess what? They suffer lower rates of spousal killing, and their children do not die from gun violence at any statistically meaningful rate.
Never said rape was rare, just pointed out that making guns easy for every psychopath to gets their hands on doesn't make it less rare. Increasing gun ownership increases the rate of rapists who own guns as well, you, evil evil gun wielding rapist supporter 🙄
Congratulations on living in the only country in the world where dozens of children are regularly gunned to death at school. All your decisions are going great.
You're more likely to be killed by a mosquito than raped, and men are far more likely to be murdered than you. You might want to reevaluate your threat assessment.
@AngryCommieKender @pinkdrunkenelephants
Got any proof for those statements or are they just your opinions?
I remembered the Texas economy lower than it is
https://wisevoter.com/state-rankings/gdp-by-state/
I was thinking they were only at 1.6-1.8 trillion
@AngryCommieKender
You wrote about mosquitoes, rape and murder, not GDP.
Those were the data I asked about.
Sorry I got confused about the thread.
https://www.mosquito.org/vector-borne-diseases/
Over 1 million people per year die from mosquitoes world wide.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime
https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/fastfact.html
There's the best SA statistics you'll find, but even they admit that the data on the men's side is flawed and incomplete at best.
@AngryCommieKender
Thank you for the apology. It's appreciated.
Statistics for rape conclude that 10% of the world's female population are raped, which equates to about 400,000,000 girls and women. Stats on male rape are fairly non-existent (from a PDF here https://www.equalitynow.org/resource/the-worlds-shame-the-global-rape-epidemic/).
That's 400x the amount of people killed by mosquitoes.
edit to correct numbers
No it isn't. That's 400,000,000 total, not per year.
The total number of humans killed by mosquitos is in the billions. Mosquitoes have killed more of us than anything else including us and war
Oh, and that million+ per year is way down. Before we figured out how to cure malaria it was tens to hundreds of millions of humans per year.
@AngryCommieKender
It would take 400 years for mosquitoes to kill as many people as rape has affected.
Only at today's death rate. Prior to malaria being cured it would have taken 4 years to 40. PS. They've been at it for 250,000 years the death toll isn't even close. You're arguing in bad faith.
What about Finland? https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compareyears/65/rate_of_civilian_firearm_possession