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If a single location consistently has a problem with speeding drivers, you've got a poorly designed road.
Definitely. And yet they never seem to redesign the roads for the speed we want.
Let's redesign streets for the benefit of the people who live there, rather than the speed and convenience of the cars that drive through. I'm sick of the noisy and dangerous traffic around the place where I live, and I can't afford to move.
Stroads... Canada is FULL of them. I wish they'd design streets here like they do in the Netherlands. I lived there for years and it was awesome.
Stroads: The infrastructure that sucks for everyone, pedestrians, cyclists, transit users, and drivers all the same.
But that's the Canadian way. Everyone gets a trophy. We're too "polite" to pick a favourite. We hope that in doing so we can make everyone happy, but end up making everyone unhappy.
The people of the Netherlands are known for being much more, let's say, blunt. They're not afraid to choose a winner.
How else do they get money from the people?
Just need speed bumps. Speed bumps every few blocks on every street where the limits are below 60km/h. There's no more sure way short of rebuilding the entire roads.
Just add bike lanes on both sides. :P /s
Or the speed limit is too low
On side is a park, the other side is residential.
This is the exact place where you'd want low speed limits. Some cities treat the roads beside parks like school zones, dropping the speed to 25 or 30 kph.
Yeah in Victoria it's been lowered to 25. Nobody drives that speed though. People drive what speed they feel comfortable despite what the signs say
Which is why we need to design our streets so that the speed at which drivers are comfortable matches the speed that is safe and sensible for the other people sharing the street, such as pedestrians and cyclists. Raised crossings, in-street traffic calming, narrow winding streets, paving stones, etc.