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The initial argument was ‘sending is to anyone is insane’ but that’s what you do with the bank. Yes it’s only once - but that’s the same as the other systems we are taking about here.
They don't accept it remote, only face-to-face. I have done it once, 15 years ago. Face-to-face is actually only way to do it to avoid identity theft.
Interesting, so your answer to identity authentication is it is it shouldn’t ultimately be done to do remotely and that everyone needs to queue at the counter.
Meanwhile the UK gov remote system seems to work rather well https://appadvice.com/app/gov-uk-id-check/1629050566
You do that once in your lifetime, and never after that.
Until you change banks, mobile phone provider or visit another country and want a local SIM
The other bank and other mobile provider identifies you through the another one. I am able to identify through two different banks and mobile provider, and have not in 15 years done it onprem. I do strong digital authentication generally once or twice a week.
Edit: last time was actually when I took house mortgage 13 years ago, and switched bank. Not really a issue to show ID onprem when talking 200k€.
So, to be clear - if you ever need to renew government documentation or get access to government systems (benefits or taxes), the government doesn’t ask to see government ID - it outsources that to bank procedures from n years ago?
Practical sense yes, I accessed my tax info today, and strongly authenticated through my mobile provider. It took me 2 seconds and there was MFA included in the process.
Edit: here is Finnish Cyber Security Centers article how the process works: https://www.kyberturvallisuuskeskus.fi/en/our-activities/regulation-and-supervision/electronic-identification
It is defined in Finnish law that all services must use this mechanisms
Looks like initial submission of identity documents can be done electronically - not necessarily in-person.
Yes, I noticed also that they have included this support now also.