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Paul Holvey recall petition gatherers lying (self.eugene)

submitted 1 year ago by bamfic to c/eugene

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Just had a Paul Holvey recall petitioner come by. They said that it was a petition to help grocery workers recover unpaid back wages. Went thru a whole spiel about that. Then I looked at the petition, it was the Paul Holvey recall petition.

Sleazy tactics say a lot about a cause. If you have to lie about it, it's probably not a good cause.

I have seen this pattern before with other petition gatherers in other cities. Hard no.

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[–] kescusay 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have deep reservations about it, too. As near as I can tell, the complaints about him are a serious stretch. If a recall ends up on the ballot, I'll do my due diligence and research the issue deeply, but I greatly doubt I'll be voting to recall him.

[–] ewe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, seems like sour grapes to me. I could be wrong but it's more normal political shecanery, which may not be great, but that sounds like "primary him next election thing" not a "recall him now thing."

[–] bamfic 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love to know what PR firm or political think tank is behind this, and where their funding is coming from, but it's probably all dark money. It feels to me like a test, an experiment, applying a common fascist strategy of attacking people's strengths, from the old Karl Rove playbook, along with modern social media era disinformation and disorientation/confusion techniques. If it works it could be used to take out any progressive in a "safe" seat all over the country.

[–] ewe 4 points 1 year ago

It's a union, I think, not some mystery thing. Their constituents got boned when promised legislation got killed in committee so they are trying to recall the guy in charge of the committee.