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I had a man in his 60s tell me "if you board a flight without noise canceling headphones in 2023, that's on you."
We were flying to Italy (from US) with our 5 month old to visit my Aunt one last time before she passed away a few months later. Baby cried here and there for a total of maybe 1.5 out of the 9 hours. We felt so guilty but people were incredibly nice at the end when we apologized for disturbing their flight.
She's a pretty good flyer overall but will throw her occasional 5 minute fits. I think about that man's joke after working our asses off to calm her down.
I don't know what kind of noise-cancelling headphones he has but mine wouldn't help against crying - they reduce the volume of buzzes, humms, and other background noises, but I can definitely still hear shrieks quite well.
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Interesting. Not saying you're wrong because, sure, I can hear some crying with mine too but with music or a podcast playing its a distant background noise that my brain just kind of ignores, I guess. But I like to do work on planes so now I'm wondering if I just got used to tuning it out when I'm zoned in. I'm also one of those weirdos that can sleep on planes. So... I Might be in a small group of outliers on this one.
Being angry at babies is what pathetic people do.they cant do much about their situation.
Its on their parents but... as you say.. sometimes you just gotta fly. With the kid.
Yeah, noise cancelling headphones delete the mechanical noise and the standard level of chatter. Screaming is left in that void to come right on through and into your brain. They don't block angry baby screams, they make them stand out.
When you realize most of those judgemental passengers were those kids like 20 years ago (2003’sh). 😀
As long as there is effort from the parent’s side to help the baby adjust, then people should be more human and acknowledge this is how humans grow up!
No-one's claiming that it's unreasonable or unprecedented for kids to be noisy and disruptive due to (among other reasons) still-developing brains that can't fully process social norms and responsibilities.
We're saying that, given that everyone knows that fact, the parents who choose to bring poorly-behaved kids onto planes are being selfish and irresponsible.
The kids are mostly blameless in these situations - they're still developing, they can't (depending on age) be expected to be fully responsible. It's the parents that are selfish shitbags.
I didn't chose to be born nor did I chose to be a child. I have the right to be irritated though by other people's mistakes. It is completely OK not to make humans. We are not just mindless beasts only good for reproduction. People have a right to find people's poor life choices distasteful, lie smoking cigarettes and doing drugs.
Anybody that complains about children and babies can go fuck themselves. You shouldn’t have to feel guilty for being a parent.
Yes you should. That child is going to face pretty bad economic and climate times. The likelihood of them dying from climate change or starvation is going up. And because of covid damaging immune systems, dying of the increasing numbers of illnesses running around. Not to mention the return of once defeated diseases due to anti-vax movements.
They chose to bring a kid into a world of misery because they were needy, or they thought it would be cute, or whatever. Selfish reasons. That's who should go f themselves.
You should try getting out of the house.
You’re assumption that I don’t is in error.
The likelihood of each of us dying goes up every day we wake up. So by your logic we might as well just all kill ourselves now and get it over with? As much as I agree with your list of real concerns, your suggesting we should put an end to human kind altogether because life is getting harder each generation?
Whatever, man. You’re going to do or say whatever.
Hahaha bro. Go touch grass.
While we still can.
Yes, I should hole myself in my house because I could potentially get hit by a car tomorrow. That’s what your reasoning sounds like.
Look, yes, the world is grim and the climate is changing, but why shouldn’t I instill the harsh realities of this world in my children so that they can grow up and cope and deal with this stuff. This sort of stuff is part of upbringing that should be instilled in our children so that they don’t grow up and make those mistakes.
Even more importantly, we should all lead by example and show them, by example, by being more active in the causes we care about enough to pursue so that life is more meaningful than mere existence.
This is how I was raised, and that’s how I intend to raise my children instead of cowering away from it and choosing not to have children which seems like the easy way out and really, is pretty pathetic.
So yes, people can go fuck themselves if they can’t deal with crying children. :-)
Justify it however you want. You’re a terrible person who like hurting your child and annoying everyone. Got it.
Considering your cowardly outlook on life, your words don’t hold any weight.
Maintaining the status quo is what keeps humanity from progressing. Slavery was acceptable and still is in many places, except for where the status quo was challenged. Having kids should no longer be the status quo and it won't be long until civil rights catch up to the abusive nature of being created without consent.
Except it's a choice.
YES