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Alright. Do note that there is lots of censorship around this topic. Many scientists have had their careers ruined or been censored when publishing work that goes against the climate narritive. Not many know this.
A few times in the past I have shared internet sources but was accussed of sharing unoffical sources, or unreliable sources, etc. Kinda like being accusee of sharing fake news since it did not come from a pro green NGO or government.
I do believe the points I made earlier came from either Patrick Moore or Alex Epstein.
Oh good, more unverifiable claims. As much time as you’ve spent commenting on this post, surely you could’ve come up with some links containing some actual evidence to back up your claims?
Do people not know about this stuff you claim because it’s made up? I’m very open minded and curious about your viewpoint, but you’ve given me absolutely nothing to go off of here.
You can’t just make claims and say shit like this without backing it up somehow.
You’ve provided the names of two people; am I supposed to go read ALL of their work??
Yes
You’re daft.
Called it way above in the comments didn’t I? I must have ESPN or something.
So just so we’re clear; if there’s published scientific data around it: it’s a conspiracy of scientific censorship because of the “climate narrative”, but if it’s unproven opinion narrative that works for the oil companies profits that happen to be huge public policy lobbying forces; it’s definitely the truth. Because obscure scary reasons, “not many people know this” Got it.
This is the least satisfying “conversation” I think I’ve ever had on Lemmy. Usually, I’ve found SOME common ground or an ability to prove a point but this has been supremely frustrating and honestly frightening.
No wonder humanity is having trouble with climate change; this is what we’re up against: A complete disability to think critically.
Sigh. Now I remember why I do not take part in these discussions back on Reddit. Lots of inmature tribalism. Believe in whatever you want since whatever I present is never going to be considered valid.
Feelings mutual. You’re choosing to ignore all the data people are presenting you with cited information and then calling it invalid or a conspiracy of censorship. If you wanted to see people’s opinions sway, show the data. Nobody here is commenting about the morality of the issue or in a way that couldn’t be swayed.
No. They likely had their careers ruined because they did shoddy work.
The points you made earlier are simply incorrect with even the most conservative estimates. So you should clearly not be listening to whoever wrote them.