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Why lemmy.world should not defederate from beehaw.org. (self.lemmyworld)
submitted 2 years ago by FantasticFox to c/lemmyworld
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What defederating would mean:

  • We won't see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

  • There is less confusion, you can't respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

  • We won't be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won't see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our 'front page').

beehaw.org users already can't see our posts/comments anywhere so it's not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn't really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think associating your basic online identity with your sexual preferences is pretty weird in the first place. Maybe I just don't get how this is supposed to work. It would be bizarre if my email address or other online identity also directly represented what I prefer in the bedroom.

How do I have an unbiased discussion about gardening or whatever if my address is @gaypower or @whateverhetero

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

In general, designing an identity around some very specific stances (metalhead, techie, gamer, nerd, political ideologies, sports team) or material qualities (sexual orientation, disabilities, location where you were born) works against your well-being in various ways:

  • You're socially and mentally wall-gardening yourself.
  • Inbues your whole life with the "us-vs-them" fallacious world that will only cause anxiety, fear and ire.
  • Easier to bottle up in internet bubbles, further polarizing and radicalizing yourself.
  • Detaches you from other realities. Harder to relate to the varied people you find in real life. Everything outside your closed community feels either scary or stupid.
  • It makes you static and unmoving. Harder to actualize yourself.
  • It makes you easier to be exploited by marketing and consumerism targeted towards those demographics/hashtags. This was the main goal behind the media development of 70's identities (metalhead, punkhead, MTV, jpop): selling merchandise, tickets and ads.
[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

That is true

But it happens anyway