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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I actually don't have a problem paying for online services. I host my own email, I pay for Kagi search and I do monthly donations to Mozilla and Wikipedia. What I have an issue with is services that start out as advertisement based and then introduce paid plans, because now you still have all these shitty mechanics just for driving up engagement which results in unhealthy incentives for content creators and rabbit holes. I want a service that is for YouTube what Kagi is to Google Search. But perhaps that model is too difficult to monetize, I don't know.

[–] PHLAK 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] DanseMacabre 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nebula is absolutely amazing, but it's a very specific niche. I don't think that kind of model could ever work outside of that genre of educational, super high production value content.

[–] spader312 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly like the idea of nebula but most of the content from my favorite creators is like an hour long meanwhile I only watch something on YouTube if it's less that 20 minutes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I disagree. I am on the fence about joining nebula, but that's partially because I know I will binge through my favorite stuff then back on YouTube watching small time content.

I would be more likely to pay a couple bucks a month or like $20 a year to a service specifically for small time creators trying to build up an audience. Or even some 15 year old that wanted to earn some candy or dirt bike money from their claymation videos or whatever.

I spend a lot of time lying in bed thinking about all of the great art, poetry, songs, books, videos, plays, etc. That will never come to be because it's stuck in someone's mind and they don't have the outlet and or incentive to put pencil to paper, turn on that cam, or finally record themselves when they set bow to string and start playing the work they had been creating for the last year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been eying Kagi and Orion. How do you find Kagi? I spend so much time fighting with Google SEO if it's half decent I would switch. I'm just wary that my searching methods wouldn't work well in Kagi.

Did you find it straightforward to adjust to how Kagi works?

[–] dansel 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm very happy with Kagi. I find the search results to be excellent. It does take a little bit of practice to get back into the habit of writing proper search queries instead of relying on google already having a profile of what you're likely to want, but once you do its very solid. The features to promote or demote domains is also very useful.

Funny thing is that occasionally I'll search for something with Kagi and I'll get no or very few results only to then try google. Google will then show me millions of results but it's all unrelated, AI generated, SEO trash that'll just waste my time. I'll take no results over that any day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the response. What you shared is the same experience I have with Google :/