I don't think Havertz is as bad as he's being made out to be. He has the tools to succeed. Arteta is knows how to bring the best out of under performing players. I mean look at the job he's done with Xhaka.

[–] Gingerrific 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't let Chelsea fool you, there is a great player in that body, but Chelsea has been a black pit of death for attackers lately. Werner, Lukaku, Sterling, Havertz, Ziyech, Auba, Felix, Mudryk, Cuca (defender I know) are all great players but just haven't been able to show that while at Chelsea.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't doubt what you say is true. But he doesn't actually tackle or solve any of our problems. Even if we're bringing him in as Saka cover, his end product has always been vastly inferior.

[–] MHPengwingz 2 points 1 year ago

Same. I believe there's talent but at that price and his development at Chelsea though? I'd be wary.

[–] Eabryt 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point I'm willing to let Arteta and Edu cook. Vieira aside, there hasn't really been a bad signing per se. I'm not even ready to call Vieira bad, just less impressed by him than I'd like to be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think Fabio still deserves some time. This pre-season will be so important for him. Hopefully it's just a case of it taking time for him to settle into a new country and new league.