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[–] havokdj 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Libertarianism is a very wide spectrum and isn't really nailed down to a single ideology. There's forms of socialism, capitalism, and communism with libertarian counterparts.

I don't really say this outloud because people get the wrong idea but I consider myself a libertarian, but I do not associate with any party (especially not the de facto american libertarian party)

My beliefs are this:

  • You should be free to do as you wish that does not impede on the freedoms of others. For instance, you should be free to use substances as you wish, but you shouldn't be free to operate a motor vehicle or heavy machinery under the influence because it is dangerous and could injure or kill someone, therefore impeding their freedoms.

  • The government should have minimal involvement in regulating the people, and the people themselves play a role in governing the country. Get rid of the electoral college, popular vote should be the way to win elections.

  • I have absolutely nothing against taxes, but I think the people should have a choice on where their tax dollars go on an individual level. Everyone gets a budget set accordingly to their income, and the individual chooses (at least a percentage) of where their tax dollars go. Every year when tax time comes, you record this to be audited. This way the government can still allocate funds where needed, but they can't overinflate anything's budget without the approval of the people, or vice versa. BTW, no tax cuts for "charitable donations", if you truly wish to be charitable, then you can donate along with your taxes :).

This is unironically the best approach in my opinion. Not looking to start a debate or anything, just thought I'd give my .02. I know the system may not be perfect, but no system is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There’s forms of socialism, capitalism, and communism with libertarian counterparts.

Hey hey! I'm partial to libertarian socialism myself, which is really just anarchist-lite.

You should be free to do as you wish that does not impede on the freedoms of others.

This sounds nice, but practically it's impossible. Like, quite literally impossible. You can barely drive the car you want without affecting other people indirectly (thanks climate change)! My solution is that you're only as free as the next person. It's fine if you transgress against others if it's equally fine that others can transgress against you. So, it's probably fine to demand that people care about you if you also extend your caring for them (with the understanding that they are not obligated to reciprocate). It's complicated, but it's certainly better than the non-harm principle.

[–] havokdj 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I agree. It would need modifications to work because not all people have the same belief but I think the ideal world would work like this. Transgression is a bit touchy because while it does inconvenience others, I don't think that it truly impedes their freedom, rather it just puts a stick in the mud.

I 100% agree on the car part. Don't get me wrong, I love my car, but I love my planet more. If it wasn't necessary to actually get to work where I lived, I wouldn't even HAVE one. Unfortunately though, my workplace is in a rural area and my city has practically zero public transportation save for taxis, which are still just cars.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

It's fine if you transgress against others if it's equally fine that others can transgress against you.

This is an incredibly selfish statement. No, it is not okay to force your will upon other people against theirs, which is essentially what transgression is, regardless of their ability to do the same to you. Respect people's liberty to be free of your impositions.