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Thanks for summarizing my feelings on systemd in a less inflammatory way than if I had written it myself.
I've found that most distributions have implemented it properly and for the most part it works quite well and stays out of my way, it's only when for some reason you have to dive into the minutiae of a unit file and getting into all the dependencies and stuff that it gets annoying quickly.
The dependency system takes a bit to understand but compared to like upstart it was a massive improvement.
Everybody gangsta until
A start job is running for ... (10s / 1min 30s)
Or, even worse,
A start job is running for ... (10s / no limit)
lol, that brought back memories
I don't see how exactly that is systemd's fault.
You are blaming it for having proper dependency handling?
I'm blaming it for making it a pain in the ass to debug dependency problems and for having the confusing, non-intuitive, overly verbose and redundant syntax that probably caused the problem in the first place.
Like, who the hell can memorize all the subtle differences in behavior between
After=
,Requires=
,Wants=
,Requisite=
,BindsTo=
,PartOf=
,UpHolds=
and then all their "reverse" equivalents?You're right that the difference isn't overly obvious. However, for most services,
Wants=
is enough. I think some of these (likeRequisite=
) came from actual users' demands where they had to solve corner cases in their setup that systemd did not allow with the existing features. I think especiallyUpheldBy=
is a smart addition; it adds restarting to a service only if that services is used as a dependency for the one it upholds.