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Why lemmy.world should not defederate from beehaw.org. (self.lemmyworld)
submitted 1 year ago by FantasticFox to c/lemmyworld
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What defederating would mean:

  • We won't see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

  • There is less confusion, you can't respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

  • We won't be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won't see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our 'front page').

beehaw.org users already can't see our posts/comments anywhere so it's not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn't really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except their excuses are pretty poor. Modlogs are always public info, and you can see that there were only one or two trolls. That doesn't warrant blocking hundreds of other users.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So then you agree? It's not political?

Whether it was the right decision or not, they said they made it because trolls were coming from those communities and those communities have open sign ups. They also said it's not permanent so it's not like they're trying to silence a group of people perceived to mostly be on those servers. Just a group of mods/admins that took maybe too severe of a step to protect their base/their time/their own mental health.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's most likely going to be permanent. beehaw's admins don't have a very reputable history of fair moderation.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's most likely going to change when the protocol advances and defederation tools become more nuanced.

[โ€“] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

Hopefully