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Looking for beginner friendly free or cheaper solutions for a chatbot (self.selfhosted)
submitted 1 year ago by borzthewolf to c/selfhosted
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Hello all, you all seem to be well versed in this stuff and I can't seem to find many ai or chatbot communities at all. Anyway, I've just been using the free, outdated gpt3.5 on the openai site and it really opened my eyes to how useful of a tool it is. I mean it helps me with everything, especially computer related and troubleshooting... But of course it has its flaws. Its limited in capabilities, knowledge cutoff at 2021, assuming its highly restrictive and censored as well.

I would love a solution, probably gpt4, but I entered the hugging face rabbit hole and now I'm completely lost lmao. What are some good options for someone who wants basically same functions of the free chatgpt but up to date, smarter, and just better. I'm willing to put in some work to build something, if its not too tricky. I get lost easily at this technical level. Or an out of box option is preferred. I have no clue about models other than gpt4 and I guess that's what I'm looking for or something better for either free or a lower cost than openai's $20 a month. And preferably something more private and less restrictive for the nsfw and darker questions lol

I hope this ramble makes some sense at least. I just opened my eyes to this field and its pretty deep. As of now, newb friendly,user friendly for someone with some OK tech/computing knowledge. Thanks

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately there isn't any free/open source LLM that's as good as ChatGPT. The ones that are here like Llama 2 and Vicuna 1.5 are decent, but are pretty dumb and love spouting random incorrect info and are really unreliable. The biggest problem isn't even that, it's that hosting one yourself requires a TON of resources. The higher-end models (still not as good as ChatGPT) can need over 20gb of VRAM. For reference an RTX 4090 has 24gb vram.

You might have better luck trying alternatives to ChatGPT. I personally use Claude, it's less censored and has knowledge up to 2023.

[–] borzthewolf 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Claude sounds perfect then. I came across the model but don't know anything. This is all brand new to me. Is Claude the same question and answer/general/all in one type of chat like gpt? And is its own platform or would it take some coding and developing and APIs and all that confusing stuff lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup, claude is general-purpose and has its own website: https://claude.ai/

Unlike ChatGPT it also doesn't need a phone number.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve been using https://perplexity.ai which requires nothing other than a prompt.

[–] borzthewolf 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very awesome. I haven't dove in yet, but is it its own model or does it use gpt4 or something else?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's its own model created by the company itself.