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[–] FantasticFox 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't get the controversy over 30fps. Like I played RDR2 at 30fps and didn't even notice it.

The gameplay itself is far more important and on that front Bethesda has been second to none. There isn't even one single game that comes close to what they have achieved in The Elder Scrolls. Kingdom Come: Deliverance was close but much smaller in scope (which makes sense given the size of the studio).

I've played every single one of their games since Morrowind and while Fallout 76 was a flop and Fallout 4 was perhaps a bit disappointing, at least without DLC, almost all of their games have been incredible.

In Todd we trust.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Well, maybe you don't notice and that's good for you (or not, I don't really know) but for the majority of people it's quite noticeable, especially if you can directly compare 60 vs 30 (the higher the better) and the point of the article is that if it's locked at 30 on consoles that may be a sign that it's not well optimized for pc and the vast majority won't be able to achieve 60...

[–] scutiger 6 points 1 year ago

It's much less noticeable on LCD screens than it was on CRT's back in the day. And like I mentioned on another post on the subject, a consistent 30 fps is way better than higher but inconsistent framerates.

Plus this is a single player game where you're not competing with other players who might have an edge with better framerates than yours.

The truth is if you keep asking developers to push the envelope on graphics, framerates will suffer. 30 fps isn't great, but it's a compromise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The minimum requirements for this game are very high,,and that's for running it at 30fps. Add that AAA always have problems at release + it's Bethesda... So I bet the game is going to run terribly.

(Also I'd rather have 60fps and last gen graphics than 30fps for a game with shooting and fast-paced action)

[–] notun 3 points 1 year ago

Good performance is what allows good gameplay to shine. 30 fps might be fine for you, but anyone playing on PC with M&K will attest that 60 fps is the bare minimum.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

30fps is not a stylistic choice, it's due to hardware limitations. A higher framerate with no motion blur is preferable in nearly all circumstances.

Sure you 'get used to it', but I could say the same thing for playing games while in a room with a strobe light flashing in my eyes. Yeah my gaming experience isn't materially different, but I'd be a lot more comfortable in better circumstances.

Once you're used to higher framerates, 30fps is a big downgrade, with motion blur smearing things around to keep it from looking like a slideshow.

[–] kurosawaa 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fallout 4 was good but is almost 8 years old now, at this point I would worry that the talent that made of their hit games up to Skyrim has mostly left or retired. 76 is their most recent game was a huge flop with massive technical problems, why should we trust that starfield will be different?

[–] MetalAirship 3 points 1 year ago

I like to think 76 had problems because it was multiplayer and Bethesda doesnt have a lot of experience in that area. But Starfield is single player so hopefully it will just work™

[–] nivenkos 3 points 1 year ago

Fallout 76 was made by a different studio (most of it anyway).

They've literally been working on Starfield solidly for over 6 years.

[–] FantasticFox 2 points 1 year ago

We'll see. I'm pretty optimistic about it though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

8?! Surely you mean 4... God I feel older and older.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

RDR2 came out last gen. Since the release of newer systems it’s been standard to a have a 60 fps option.