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What defederating would mean:

  • We won't see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

  • There is less confusion, you can't respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

  • We won't be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won't see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our 'front page').

beehaw.org users already can't see our posts/comments anywhere so it's not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn't really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

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[โ€“] cura 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From what I saw on their post, it seems there are bad faith actors registering in lemmy.world just to harass beehaw.org.

[โ€“] MiddleWeigh 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sigh.

Who tf comes online just to troll "beehaw" some obscure instance on an obscure platform? That's crazy to me lol.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah, some people are really werid.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, there are trolls on Reddit to be fair, it's not terribly surprising that if a lot of Reddit users move to some place, a bunch of trolls will come with, either because they too don't like reddit's changes, or because they see new communities to mess with. And I can imagine that, if someone is a troll and gets enjoyment out of bothering people and causing anger, that a community that is pretty restrictive in it's rules and tries to maintain a "calm" and "safe" sort of vibe is probably going to be a more satisfying target?

Beyond that, I do think I recall seeing one of the beehaw admins saying something about not wanting theirs to be the place all the redditors move to, because they don't want keeping the community run and moderated to be a full time thing and because they want quality over quantity, in terms of their community. If they feel like they're reaching the limit of how big a community they can comfortably handle and dont want it getting much bigger, then a controversial move like this that might lose them some users isn't going to be a problem for them.

I'm not saying I like this move, I don't personally have any real stake in it obviously not being hosted on either instance involved but I worry that fragmentation like this while people are starting to really look into the platform as a whole isn't a great look for lemmy, -but I do get where they are coming from.

[โ€“] MiddleWeigh 3 points 2 years ago

That's fair. I don't really have a horse in the race, just curious about the whole situation.

[โ€“] GONADS125 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Alt-righters and 4-chan users. They often feel justified thru their delusions and rationalizations.

[โ€“] MiddleWeigh 1 points 2 years ago

"Who tf are these people?" Is a question I find myself asking quite often lol.