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Why lemmy.world should not defederate from beehaw.org. (self.lemmyworld)
submitted 2 years ago by FantasticFox to c/lemmyworld
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What defederating would mean:

  • We won't see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

  • There is less confusion, you can't respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

  • We won't be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won't see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our 'front page').

beehaw.org users already can't see our posts/comments anywhere so it's not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn't really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

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[โ€“] 314xel 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I hope they ran this defederation thing by their users first.

[โ€“] Wolfric1982 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They did not. It was just dumped on everyone earlier today

[โ€“] GONADS125 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm all for protecting users from bigoted assholes, but I would be very unhappy as one of the users they aim to protect due to feeling as tho they believe they know how to act in the best interest of their users, when they don't give their community a seat at the grown-ups' table to make the decision.

I'd rather not be part of an instance in which drastic, sweeping actions are taken without consideration or feedback from their userbase. I'm not even arguing that they are wrong in doing what they did; just that I wouldn't appreciate being treated like they know what's best for me. Feels like being treated like a child.

I don't want to be part of an instance in which I'll suddenly lose access to content across Lemmy because it's 'in my best interest' according to internet strangers.

With that said, hopefully we stop accruing bigoted assholes here, we get better mod tools, and things can be refederated.

[โ€“] Wolfric1982 2 points 2 years ago

I had an account on beehaw and once I saw the post I immediately created a new account on lemmy.world for the exact reason you described. I don't want to be cut off or told what I can and can't see.