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The main cloud services don't even work natively (GoogleDrive, OneDrive, iCloud) basically the only mainstream choice is Dropbox. I tried to use Google Drive in Mint, and it's a pain to get it to work, and usually it stops working after computer restarts.

Someone has a recommendation about how to handle these services?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Most people I know who use Linux wouldn't trust Cloud services cause that's just storing your stuff on somebody else machine. You can self hosted service like Next cloud on a raspberry pi or just get comfortable with networking enough to setup VPN and ssh into your home computer from the net to get your stuff.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A huge part of disaster recovery is storing things in separate geographic locations. That's not easily don't with self hosting. If all my stuff is on a file server at my house and my house burns down then I've lost all my files.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While this is true, you can have a remote backup service that isn't the type of cloud storage the OP seems to want (that is, which isn't designed for editing individual files on the fly on the remote server, or synchronizing between devices). They're similar, but not the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I'm mostly talking about the "somebody else's computer" part in the comment I replied to. I don't think it's very feasible. I think self hosting stuff from home is awesome and think it's a culture more folks should check out, but to really have a proper backup of files they need to be stored in multiple different physical locations and that's not something that's cost effective for most folks. What you're talking about is still "someone else's computer" so not different from the comment above.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

@JackbyDev @besbin my personal solution for this is an encrypted 16tb external storage drive I keep in my car. A copy of my server drive is made once a week. not perfect solution but doesn't require much effort on my part

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I walk through the woods on one side of my house, there is a shovel behind some trees I’ve marked. Then I go back to my house, down the other side of my property until I get to the river. Then I dig in the river bank until I get to a plastic bag. Double wrapped of course.

Inside the plastic bag?.. a collection of 1gb USB thumb drives and a note pad.

In the note pad?.. an index cataloguing what is backed up on each thumb drive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess it depends where you live, but I’d be worried about heat/freezing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

@ebits21 yes this is true I mean I live in the UK so we don't get extremes neither way, but maybe during winter I should keep the drive at my partners place

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@JackbyDev in a parking space on the other side of the road from my house, not far but deals with the whole house fire problem

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Just sanity checking 👍

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Well the thing is, I’m still not comfortable in opening up an attack surface like that. I would much rather pay for someone else to do that. Preferably someone who really knows what they are doing and keeps an eye on the constantly evolving security environment. There’s a bunch of other stuff happening in my life, so finding the time to play server admin isn’t that easy right now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are many professional Nextcloud holsters, for example: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the link. Recently, I’ve been looking into nextcloud providers, but somehow I missed this company.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

If you need the online storage (or whatever self hosted service) just for yourself (and maybe some few people), it's very simple to set up a Wireguard instance. My server doesn't even show open ports to the outside world, but with Wireguard I can access my git, wiki, etc in my home LAN.
I haven't really tried any of the second tier Solutions like Tailscale. But when you have more users or a more complex environment, that could help.

Still, sharing stuff with "outsiders" would still be tricky, I guess - at least I haven't found a solution...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Uh what? Lots of Linux users also use cloud services.

Pretty easy to use something like Cryptomator with almost any service and maintain privacy.

Self hosting can be great; it can also be a pain.