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What constitutes Usage Data. Is it sharing the posts I view, communities I subscribe to etc?

Does paying for a premium version stop this data being collected?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 154 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

From DuckDuckGo:

For what it's worth, I subscribed to Ultra about an hour ago and DDG hasn't picked up any additional tracking attempts since then. I think it may be limited entirely to Google's ad service for the free, ad-supported tier and maybe crash diagnostics that the app gives you the option of enabling or disabling.

[โ€“] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that the lack of further attempts backs up what lj shared a bit ago in the Discord. That's still a hell of a lot of tracking for folks who can't or don't want to pay, though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Sure would be cool if this kind of information was provided outside of a proprietary service that not only requires a login but also you to join a specific server just to then have this be hidden by 1,500 random messages that you don't care about. Shame there is no such place.

[โ€“] Gazumbo 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can someone explain what this means. The ads/tracking is not activated in Sync for Lemmy? If so, why have it in the code.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically all tracking is done by Google ads. It checks at start up if you have purchased ad free or not. If purchased, launch app without ad library, else launch with ads. It has to be in the code because (according to the dev) Google is cracking down on similar apps, ie a pro version and a free version. So ad library has to be included, and it just won't use it if you pay for pro

[โ€“] Gazumbo 1 points 1 year ago

Makes sense, thanks. I think I misunderstood the comment I was replying to.

[โ€“] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

FWIW that page is a bit deceptive , it's not saying it's collecting all of that data. The only info on that page is "146 tracking attempts from Google", which makes sense if it has Google ads.

[โ€“] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Please note that the long list of things collected is what Google is known to collect, not necessarily that these are the things being collected. If you click on any other app that is also with Google trackers (practically every app listed on this page), you will find that the stuff listed are the same.

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy hell. I'm glad I'm using DNS-level ad and tracker blocking. Shout out to NextDNS and RethinkDNS!

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can you explain more? Would DNS level blocking stop ads on a smart TV (for YouTube specifically) as well?

[โ€“] Tangent5280 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am so happy whenever I see people asking more about privacy practices. It makes me feel like the fight is not so hopeless after all.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel the same way. As someone who studies and works in cyber security I love teaching people about how to stay safe or at least as safe as possible.

Some people don't go the degree I go to just to keep my stuff secure. I use hardened Arch kernels and I hardly even use arch my entire time I spend on a PC is through a VM. I have 2 computers one just for windows and gaming and then one for Linux and cyber security and coding stuff

I hate dual booting and do not like windows being close to my Linux install so I keep them separate on two different computers ๐Ÿ˜‚

Other than doing 3D printing and rendering stuff all I do is study malware and writing my own programs.

[โ€“] Tangent5280 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, you're living my dream! I also have a windows machine relegated to gaming. Can you expand on using a VM when you want to use your computer? Is that a viable alternative? How is ease of use and boot up times? Do you use Linux on the VMs also? Do you see any performance issues in the actual PC when using the VM in parallel?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Most of my days are spent writing malware and studying and testing it to see how it infects a system and how to learn how to stop it I also study malware I find online.

When I say I use a VM almost all my time I don't mean it as my actual "computer"

My computer is a 24 core threadripper beast with 64gbs of ram. When I study malware I do it strictly through a VM and when I'm browsing the word or YouTube I use a VM.

When I'm doing activities such as 3D printing and running my print farm I do not use a VM as it takes a lot of processing power and graphics power to run those programs.

I just like using VMs to learn about open sourced software and how it works and I like breaking and fixing things.

Cyber security is amazing but also sucks when you get a call at 3am lol

If you have any questions send me a message :D

[โ€“] Tangent5280 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the reply. I hadn't really thought of using VMs to create an additional layer of separation between me and tracking and profiling companies, mainly because running a VM on my bottom-of-the-line machine was a painful experience when I tried many years ago. I think I'll try that again once I've upgraded quite a bit.

At the moment I'm stuck with a bunch of other responsibilities, but when I get around to it, I'll drop you a message with any questions I have. Thanks again.

[โ€“] sec 7 points 1 year ago

Not for youtube, you can use smarttube for android tv. It has everything, like sponsorblock etc

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tracker blocking youtube results in new videos not adding to your history, recommendations freezing permanently, youtube just regurgitates the same stuff and seemingly never refreshes

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm using uBlock Origin and NextDNS and I don't have that issue. (Firefox, win10)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I used ubiquiti's dns level ad/tracker blocker

Effects were on every device and app except firefox - especially on smart TVs

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even other browsers? How odd. Another Firefox W to add to the long list, I suppose.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox tends to use dns over https by default, bypassing any dns level tracker blocking

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My ads still get blocked if I turn off uBlock Origin, though.

[โ€“] ZodiacSF1969 1 points 1 year ago

They are talking about on a smart TV.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way I changed my DNS on my phone and computer was through NextDNS. If you want something for your TV, you'd need to do something to your internet connection because you can't install things on the TV. I've never done it, but I've heard that a pihole is the way to go.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Can confirm, pihole blocks nearly all ads on smart TVs and apps.

[โ€“] ShakeThatYam 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I would really love to know what ads are targeting low battery levels. Chargers and battery packs obviously. But I wonder what else being at 5% tells you about a person ๐Ÿ˜…

[โ€“] hemko 7 points 1 year ago

Behavioral data at least. When and how person charges phone, how much they use phone and what times.

[โ€“] Ignacio 10 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I also don't see any weird activity on my adguard logs after subscribing to Ultra.

[โ€“] stochasticity 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Btw, what duckduckgo app is this? Not their browser?

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is their browser. The tracking protection is in their browser and tells Android that it's a VPN.

[โ€“] stochasticity 4 points 1 year ago

I found it! I thanks.

Side note, no tracking from sync has showed up for me so far.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ik right! Just Google being Google