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[–] MeanEYE 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You need a towing license for anything heavier than 750kg. Europe and surroundings are like that. For any trailer heavier than 750kg, you need to pass an exam and get a license, no matter what's towing it, be it truck or car and that's the way it should be, heavy trailer behaves differently regardless what's towing it. Then again, if this would apply everywhere we wouldn't have so many funny videos of people fucking up their boats and similar. So carry on.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But there are still a lot of people on the road that did learn to drive before that kind of license. I did a class 3 license in Germany right before the transition...

So I have my A, A1, AM, B, BE, C1, C1E license (C1E limited to 7,5t instead of 12) without ever having learned to tow anything.

[–] MeanEYE 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are right. Not sure why they did the transition like that. My father has all those and higher even though he hasn't driven a truck for decades now. But it will eventually get better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure why they did the transition like that.

Because that's exactly what the original class 3 allowed you to drive. Imagine what would have happened if they told everyone with a driving license at that point that it's now only viable for 3,5t vehicles without a trailer and they need to make a new license to keep driving their transporters, small trucks or using their trailers.

[–] MeanEYE 1 points 1 year ago

Good percentage of drivers is in dire need of refresh on the subject of traffic laws.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

At least where I am from, you are allowed to tow heavy trailers (>750 kg) with a B drivers license, if both the car and the trailer combined weigh less than 3.5 t. Light trailers (<750 kg) can be towed by any vehicle up to 3.5 t with a B license. If the combined rated weight is above 3.5 t you need a BE license as well and you have to drive slower.