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Thousands of authors demand payment from AI companies for use of copyrighted works (www.cnn.com)

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Thousands of authors demand payment from AI companies for use of copyrighted works::Thousands of published authors are requesting payment from tech companies for the use of their copyrighted works in training artificial intelligence tools, marking the latest intellectual property critique to target AI development.

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[–] joe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean when you say "ripping off her work"? What do you think an LLM does, exactly?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In her case, taking elements of her book and regurgitating them back to her. Which sounds a lot like they could be pirating her book for training purposes to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you know they didn't just buy the book?

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 year ago

Again, that's not relevant.

[–] joe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quoting someone's book is not "ripping off" the work.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is it able to quote the book? Magic?

[–] joe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're saying that as long as they buy 1 copy of the book, it's all good?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I'm not saying that. If she's right and it can spit out any part of her book when asked (and someone else showed that it does that with Harry Potter), it's plagiarism. They are profiting off of her book without compensating her. Which is a form of ripping someone off. I'm not sure what the confusion here is. If I buy someone's book, that doesn't give me the right to put it all online for free.

[–] joe 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not plagiarism if it says it's her book, lol.

What are your feelings on public libraries? And does it spit out the entire book, or just excerpts?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand what plagiarism is. When you profit off of someone else's work, you're plagiarizing. Libraries do not profit off of anything. OpenAI, however, is a for-profit endeavor.

[–] joe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

plagiarizing

This is taking someone's work and passing it off as your own. Did you not do a simple google search when there was some doubt to the definition, like I just did?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You might have gone with the law instead of the dictionary.

[–] joe 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did you read that?

Plagiarism can happen intentionally or unintentionally when a person uses another person's ideas or words without citing the original source. Here are four common forms of plagiarism:

Copying another person's words without using quotation marks or referencing the original source

Copying an author's words without using quotation marks but using accurate footnotes to the original source

Paraphrasing an author's ideas without including a reference to the original source

Rearranging an author's exact words, even if there is a footnote to the original source

Oh no, I plagiarized! lol

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Copying another person’s words without using quotation marks or referencing the original source

ChatGPT can do that.

Copying an author’s words without using quotation marks but using accurate footnotes to the original source

ChatGPT can do that.

Paraphrasing an author’s ideas without including a reference to the original source

ChatGPT can do that.

Rearranging an author’s exact words, even if there is a footnote to the original source

ChatGPT can do that.

[–] joe -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can? C'mon kid.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, can. It is capable of doing all those things and, again, if she is correct, will do so if prompted.

[–] joe 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this is nonsense, but you're saying the issue is that it doesn't use quotes when someone asks it to quote a passage from her book? Is that true?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, again, the issue is that it can regurgitate the entire book if prompted. Why you think that's legal is beyond me. What if it had video. Should it be allowed to spit out all of Oppenheimer if prompted?

[–] joe 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can it?

Prompt:

quote me a passage from a popular Sarah Silverman book

Response:

As an AI language model, my knowledge was last updated in September 2021, and I do not have access to real-time data, including specific passages from books released after that date. Up until my last update, Sarah Silverman, the American comedian, actress, and writer, had not released a book.

However, Sarah Silverman has written a memoir titled "The Bedwetter: Stories of Courage, Redemption, and Pee," which was published in 2010. Since I don't have the contents of the book available to me directly, I can't provide a specific passage from it.

If you're interested in reading something from the book, I recommend checking it out from your local library or bookstore. Her memoir contains personal anecdotes and humorous stories, reflecting her unique comedic style and life experiences.

Edit: ChatGPT-3.5, if that matters.